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the next paper is entitled science in

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default 22 years of inadequate ufo

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investigations by dr james e mcdonald

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senior physicist institute for

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but it was below his altitude he

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stressed so he's looking at it down at

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the depression angle which he would he

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put it more than 45 degrees and suddenly

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three things happened simultaneously it

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blinked out it disappeared from the ecm

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monitor it disappeared from carswell gci

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these are puzzling phenomena he put the

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47 into a strong turn

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got it

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by about mineral wells texas a half

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over the shoulder out of the blister of

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the 47 suddenly saw the intensely red

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light come on now much below their

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flight altitude simultaneously gci said

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it's back on the scope and mcclure in

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the back end and provenzano on another

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monitor announced it was back on the two

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that after uh mcclure uh

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announced his earlier sighting they

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found it on one of the other three ecm

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monitors so they were tracking it on two

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ecm monitors and it came back on at the

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same time that it came back visually and

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chase got permission to dive on it in

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the b-47 uh and uh shortly before he got

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to uh somewhere near its altitude

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specifically when he got to twenty

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thousand feet in his account he

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thousand feet at this juncture rough

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ground radar scope and this and its

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signal uh terminated he put it into a

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climb back to 25 000 headed north being

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low on fuel at this time and suddenly it

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it's 10 miles after view uh in tail

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oklahoma and finally disappeared from

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i fully agree with the remarks that dr

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satan made that there is a scientific

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obligation to

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examine questions such as

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that of the unidentified flying objects

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an obligation of the public

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to science itself

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as the title of my

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remarks indicates my study of the

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problem leads me to take the position

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that we in science are in default have

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been in default for two decades

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for failing to close with

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that created such widespread concern

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what's up everybody

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joining me here today i do appreciate

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been a while missed you guys sorry about

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yesterday didn't have the live chat

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going um my bad

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for some reason my channel was set as um

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no all good huh all right what's up

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what's up j

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vapid engage

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what's up spaghetti spaghetti yeti

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alien girl what's happening nice to see

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alpha one what's up what's happening

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and feeling good today

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here's is so

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like and share this dude

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the san marino conference um i touched

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officials were talked to that's always

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the un involved do you know what that

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heinek was at uh the u.n talk and

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um and more people even uh i forget his

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this two years in a row and the third

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uh they were gonna take a vote on it and

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of his bars that he had and people could

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may have a lot more sneaky points that

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what about elon's tweet

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mcdonald is known as maybe one of the

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person for the type of work that he

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as weird as it is he was big he

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you know

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um cloud modification so

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you know maybe i'm just ignorant to that

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could possibly be but i thought that was

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pretty crazy yes arizona state sorry i

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got la paz on my mind hi nick and um dr

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mcdonald so i'm kind of getting them all

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screwed up

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heineken was

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ohio state and even labos was at one

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point

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but anyways

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you know he he winds up uh getting into

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the flying saucer stuff and all that

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and he's really putting it on the line

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there because he is such an accomplished

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you know

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um

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and he didn't need to do anything like

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that such as we see in other people in

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that are quite accomplished and then put

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it all on the line to do this and he

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wasn't messing around

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dr mcdonald was very serious he was so

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serious

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and so good

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so somehow he knew it was a good case

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the files weren't where they were

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supposed to be he found them in the

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and was able to put together

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a great report

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a couple of them a lot of them

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but the one i'm thinking of in

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it is a sample case that was selected by

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the ufo subcommittee of i

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e i

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um let me

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i'll bring it up for you just to kind of

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show you so the reason that

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this document rocks is because if you

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see nasa

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and

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studies on their youtube channel they

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had like this conference where they were

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talking about um

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a lot of stuff

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science-based

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uap stuff and they were all very

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frustrated that they didn't have any

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data to work with you know because

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they're going off of uh reports what's

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and you know if by going off that they

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would say things like it's impossible

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for this thing to free fall

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without propulsion at that rate you know

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so anyways they

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used this document in that video

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for

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and they heavily rely on it

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nasa does

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and this is a great case and it gets

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really deep

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with the ecm uh it was rb47 equipped

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with electronic countermeasures

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um

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[Music]

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you know vectored going after them i

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think this one actually

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the chase might have went on for

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um so that's pretty good again you

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should be able to find this document in

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the description

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um i think it's either the james

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mcdonald papers on the ohio

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uh state university website or princeton

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this website it's one of the two

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um but if you want to know what

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you know

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nasa is looking at to try to at least

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get a peek

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at what's up

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got him killed so well spaghetti i

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haven't gone down the road far enough to

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uh get to that part but i'd be

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interested in learning more about it i

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tried to figure out

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and find things

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about

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what happened to him at the end of his

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life but

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um

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[Music]

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you know i just found the surface level

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stuff that's out there

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you know one of the big things in his

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his testimony in front of congress

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which wasn't really even supposed to be

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you know a ufo thing necessarily but it

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was made to be that

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into taunt and make fun of dr mcdonald

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and think of it this way like he is a

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very established doctor

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putting it all on the line

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to push for this transparency

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he's he wrote so many news articles

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about um

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secret keepers

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cia

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and

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then that happens you know you get to a

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point to where you you have

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your mouthpiece to the government and

402
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that's what they do to you

403
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so when we want like disclosure and we

404
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want transparency and all that

405
00:20:02,549 --> 00:19:59,039
it's like it's hard to forget

406
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that the government did that stuff

407
00:20:09,990 --> 00:20:06,159
you know dr mcdonald afterwards

408
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apparently he was a very aggressive guy

409
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but you know i think some people take

410
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that wrong he was probably just

411
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but anyways he wound up trying he first

412
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tried to kill himself

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failed

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he went blind

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and then apparently he was found

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somewhere maybe in the middle of a

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forest or something with a gun and he

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was dead with a suicide note

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but i don't know

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now that's messed up that's missed the

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the government

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you're gonna tell me that that wasn't a

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major

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to that outcome for him

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so rubio or other senators or congress

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people

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you know when you're thinking should we

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you know i hope somehow you can know

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and if you can still

430
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say no transparency after that then you

431
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and maybe that's the case

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but this man was

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for going after something we're still

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and we were then two

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we knew it was real then to it and they

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it's just it's

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and

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yes it is little i said this yesterday

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what is enough enough right

440
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how many people have to get burnt out to

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of where dr mcdonald got

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or other types of bad scenarios or

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situations

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like

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not being able to pay bills because

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you're spending all your time

447
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you know or losing

448
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close ones because you don't spend time

449
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with them anymore because you're

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you know there's

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there's a lot everybody puts on the line

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to look into this stuff

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and carry the burden

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you know i had my experience

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it really screwed me up it emotionally

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scarred me

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physically and i find myself devoting my

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and i don't i don't even know what it is

459
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and i'm just one person one

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there's

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80 years at least probably

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a whole existence worth

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i just don't understand why

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these people in the government get to

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hold the keys to what we know as the

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you know

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the part of the new dod directives you

468
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know there's a lot of really great

469
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language in there including

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sharing

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and working on it with allies

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a lot of stuff

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but

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because

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joe schmoe over there who doesn't give

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two rips about this

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ain't gonna believe [\h__\h]

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without the data

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even if it's a great video

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even if it's a beautiful video there's

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still going to be people that figure

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something out to bring it into question

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because that's their freaking job

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you know that's like mick west's job is

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you know have that personality to

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everybody

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and being nice about it

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but

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yeah i mean it's a sad story dr mcdonald

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because he was so uh brilliant and

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hardworking

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and really put it all out there and even

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put

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such great papers and reports together

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that are used today by our government

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establishments

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to figure something out

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because they can't get data from who has

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so like i think what would they be using

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maybe nothing he even wrote stuff with

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uh your jacquez vale this guy was

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awesome

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him and phil class

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did not like each other so much phil

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class

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seemingly i don't know the whole story

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i could be wrong i don't know just

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you know my take is just based off of uh

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looking into

510
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you know but there's a human aspect to

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00:27:11,830 --> 00:27:10,960
all this it it isn't just um news clips

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and

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i've gotten hurt

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i know other people have gotten hurt

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00:27:29,510 --> 00:27:28,399
it sucks especially when you don't know

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why

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and nobody's you know in a position of

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power

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that may have something

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00:27:47,110 --> 00:27:44,159
even wants to to help you they don't

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they just let you

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yeah i don't know

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i mean i know i get a serious stone but

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when it comes down to like

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00:28:04,470 --> 00:28:01,279
this kind of stuff like you know i can

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00:28:07,430 --> 00:28:04,480
be not serious but sometimes i have to

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be serious because

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it's like i'm not here to just

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you know

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00:28:18,630 --> 00:28:14,399
screw around i'm here to

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try to make a difference and you know

532
00:28:24,549 --> 00:28:22,320
maybe i'm not as much as i would like to

533
00:28:26,710 --> 00:28:24,559
but at least it's something

534
00:28:32,710 --> 00:28:26,720
we can all do something

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00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,549
so

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it was a couple years ago

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that this came out

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if i can maybe i can't

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00:28:58,559 --> 00:29:02,549
do daggle

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oh it's um

541
00:29:13,510 --> 00:29:09,909
i just want to bring it up so i don't

542
00:29:19,029 --> 00:29:15,990
max said he was the king of technical

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00:29:19,039 --> 00:29:21,909
but

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00:29:29,269 --> 00:29:23,110
i would

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00:29:41,590 --> 00:29:31,350
you know

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00:29:43,750 --> 00:29:41,600
doing the best i can

547
00:29:47,350 --> 00:29:43,760
i don't know why i'm talking weird sorry

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00:29:49,669 --> 00:29:47,360
okay here it is westall ufo

549
00:29:53,190 --> 00:29:49,679
all right

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00:29:56,310 --> 00:29:53,200
so um sit back enjoy this give it a

551
00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:01,830
see what you think

552
00:30:06,950 --> 00:30:03,830
editions which have referred to certain

553
00:30:10,389 --> 00:30:06,960
sightings in australia i've detected

554
00:30:12,310 --> 00:30:10,399
quite a bit of exaggeration and

555
00:30:14,389 --> 00:30:12,320
a lot of uh

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00:30:15,909 --> 00:30:14,399
misquoting

557
00:30:17,830 --> 00:30:15,919
in the last uh

558
00:30:19,750 --> 00:30:17,840
apio bulletin

559
00:30:22,149 --> 00:30:19,760
which incidentally published my

560
00:30:23,269 --> 00:30:22,159
photograph uh around the wrong way as a

561
00:30:26,470 --> 00:30:23,279
matter of fact

562
00:30:28,950 --> 00:30:26,480
and there are several reports

563
00:30:32,789 --> 00:30:28,960
emanating from australia i've got the

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00:30:35,029 --> 00:30:32,799
apro bulletin in front of me now

565
00:30:37,269 --> 00:30:35,039
there was one particular report

566
00:30:39,830 --> 00:30:37,279
which emanated from the

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00:30:42,310 --> 00:30:39,840
westerl high school i don't know whether

568
00:30:44,149 --> 00:30:42,320
you're familiar with this report but the

569
00:30:47,110 --> 00:30:44,159
science master there

570
00:30:48,710 --> 00:30:47,120
and two other members of staff and about

571
00:30:51,029 --> 00:30:48,720
300 children

572
00:30:53,590 --> 00:30:51,039
watched a ufo

573
00:30:54,389 --> 00:30:53,600
maneuvering around over withdrawal

574
00:30:56,630 --> 00:30:54,399
and

575
00:30:58,630 --> 00:30:56,640
at the same time watched five airplanes

576
00:31:00,870 --> 00:30:58,640
from the local aero club

577
00:31:02,789 --> 00:31:00,880
doing everything they could to intercept

578
00:31:03,590 --> 00:31:02,799
the ufo

579
00:31:06,789 --> 00:31:03,600
now

580
00:31:10,070 --> 00:31:06,799
in the opio bulletin it's headed

581
00:31:11,029 --> 00:31:10,080
officials quash school sightings

582
00:31:13,110 --> 00:31:11,039
well

583
00:31:16,070 --> 00:31:13,120
it may be coincidence or one of these

584
00:31:17,110 --> 00:31:16,080
lucky things but my brother-in-law

585
00:31:19,590 --> 00:31:17,120
is on the committee of the

586
00:31:22,630 --> 00:31:19,600
australian-like car club

587
00:31:24,389 --> 00:31:22,640
and the science master who

588
00:31:27,509 --> 00:31:24,399
was one of the key witnesses in this

589
00:31:28,630 --> 00:31:27,519
sighting uh is also in the light cow

590
00:31:29,830 --> 00:31:28,640
club

591
00:31:30,630 --> 00:31:29,840
as a member

592
00:31:32,470 --> 00:31:30,640
and

593
00:31:34,789 --> 00:31:32,480
i managed to arrange with my

594
00:31:36,549 --> 00:31:34,799
brother-in-law to get this particular

595
00:31:38,870 --> 00:31:36,559
chapter come over

596
00:31:40,870 --> 00:31:38,880
to my house and discuss the sighting

597
00:31:42,789 --> 00:31:40,880
with me

598
00:31:44,950 --> 00:31:42,799
it was very interesting indeed and he

599
00:31:48,070 --> 00:31:44,960
read this report you know

600
00:31:50,070 --> 00:31:48,080
bulletin and uh said that

601
00:31:52,310 --> 00:31:50,080
most of the

602
00:31:53,909 --> 00:31:52,320
so-called facts mentioned in it were

603
00:31:56,470 --> 00:31:53,919
incorrect

604
00:32:13,110 --> 00:31:56,480
and there was no question of officials

605
00:32:16,950 --> 00:32:14,870
he refused to go outside into the

606
00:32:20,149 --> 00:32:16,960
schoolyard

607
00:32:22,389 --> 00:32:20,159
even when told the object was in the sky

608
00:32:25,430 --> 00:32:22,399
when the air force contacted the

609
00:32:27,269 --> 00:32:25,440
um headmaster he told them in his exact

610
00:32:29,190 --> 00:32:27,279
words which were

611
00:32:30,389 --> 00:32:29,200
go and jump in the lake

612
00:32:32,549 --> 00:32:30,399
now

613
00:32:34,070 --> 00:32:32,559
this science master told me a great deal

614
00:32:35,509 --> 00:32:34,080
about this fighting was certainly a

615
00:32:36,950 --> 00:32:35,519
fascinating one

616
00:32:39,750 --> 00:32:36,960
uh

617
00:32:44,870 --> 00:32:39,760
it was rather unfortunate

618
00:32:50,149 --> 00:32:47,110
and this has led me to

619
00:32:51,269 --> 00:32:50,159
think at this stage anyway that uh

620
00:32:53,590 --> 00:32:51,279
it may be

621
00:32:55,269 --> 00:32:53,600
that carol lawrencium hasn't

622
00:32:56,789 --> 00:32:55,279
obtained the correct information from

623
00:32:58,710 --> 00:32:56,799
the eastern states

624
00:33:02,389 --> 00:32:58,720
because i felt quite sure that marquette

625
00:33:05,029 --> 00:33:02,399
would wait until the csiro report

626
00:33:08,310 --> 00:33:06,710
anyway to go on was exciting i think

627
00:33:11,029 --> 00:33:08,320
this is more interesting than worrying

628
00:33:12,230 --> 00:33:11,039
about the photographers at this stage

629
00:33:13,590 --> 00:33:12,240
anyway

630
00:33:19,190 --> 00:33:13,600
and

631
00:33:23,029 --> 00:33:19,200
of the science master told me that uh

632
00:33:27,190 --> 00:33:24,470
who ran into his ufo

633
00:33:28,470 --> 00:33:27,200
and said there's a flying surfer outside

634
00:33:30,630 --> 00:33:28,480
anyway

635
00:33:32,389 --> 00:33:30,640
he thought this child had

636
00:33:34,789 --> 00:33:32,399
become deranged or something that was

637
00:33:36,830 --> 00:33:34,799
real and he didn't take immediate notice

638
00:33:38,789 --> 00:33:36,840
but when the child

639
00:33:40,389 --> 00:33:38,799
insisted that this object was in the sky

640
00:33:42,630 --> 00:33:40,399
he decided to go out and have a look for

641
00:33:45,190 --> 00:33:42,640
himself

642
00:33:47,669 --> 00:33:45,200
he went out of the yard or incidentally

643
00:33:49,350 --> 00:33:47,679
this occurred on the 7th of april

644
00:33:50,789 --> 00:33:49,360
only a few days after i took that

645
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:50,799
photograph

646
00:33:57,530 --> 00:34:05,669
[Music]

647
00:34:08,629 --> 00:34:07,190
anyway he

648
00:34:10,790 --> 00:34:08,639
ran over

649
00:34:13,909 --> 00:34:10,800
and killed his group of children and

650
00:34:16,149 --> 00:34:13,919
there he saw the ufo for the first time

651
00:34:16,869 --> 00:34:16,159
it was evidently hovering very closely

652
00:34:18,550 --> 00:34:16,879
to

653
00:34:21,109 --> 00:34:18,560
the high attention power lines which

654
00:34:24,389 --> 00:34:21,119
enter melbourne from the trade valley

655
00:34:27,950 --> 00:34:24,399
and come through uh westeros

656
00:34:59,910 --> 00:34:31,030
is a bright silver object

657
00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:15,270
uh

658
00:35:19,190 --> 00:35:17,990
it radioed other planes in the area yeah

659
00:35:20,950 --> 00:35:19,200
it's a very

660
00:35:22,470 --> 00:35:20,960
deeply detailed report what i'm going to

661
00:35:24,630 --> 00:35:22,480
do is

662
00:35:28,790 --> 00:35:24,640
um

663
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,470
right here

664
00:35:37,750 --> 00:35:35,349
so you can listen to it yourself

665
00:35:39,030 --> 00:35:37,760
whenever you want i did on my vacation

666
00:35:43,430 --> 00:35:39,040
actually

667
00:35:47,910 --> 00:35:45,270
yeah that's what the well they're

668
00:35:51,109 --> 00:35:47,920
talking about yeah westall australia

669
00:35:52,550 --> 00:35:51,119
um i believe russ cole heart covered it

670
00:35:54,069 --> 00:35:52,560
too a little bit

671
00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:54,079
and

672
00:35:57,910 --> 00:35:55,680
other people

673
00:35:59,589 --> 00:35:57,920
of course um it's pretty interesting

674
00:36:01,349 --> 00:35:59,599
because they talk about how they

675
00:36:03,589 --> 00:36:01,359
vectored some planes

676
00:36:05,190 --> 00:36:03,599
and chased it it came back around all

677
00:36:06,630 --> 00:36:05,200
sorts of stuff so

678
00:36:09,670 --> 00:36:06,640
um

679
00:36:12,390 --> 00:36:09,680
i highly encourage you to listen to it

680
00:36:14,230 --> 00:36:12,400
it also talks about how the like main

681
00:36:18,310 --> 00:36:14,240
head of the school

682
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,670
until way later

683
00:36:28,630 --> 00:36:24,069
but yeah it's definitely interesting and

684
00:36:33,109 --> 00:36:31,430
paper here

685
00:36:34,790 --> 00:36:33,119
that you can read

686
00:36:38,470 --> 00:36:34,800
that i'm sending

687
00:36:41,270 --> 00:36:38,480
um that is on lakenheath

688
00:36:43,589 --> 00:36:41,280
who noah actually did

689
00:36:45,670 --> 00:36:43,599
a study on that and i have to find that

690
00:36:48,550 --> 00:36:45,680
document again but

691
00:36:52,829 --> 00:36:48,560
i'm not sure if uh dr mcdonald had to do

692
00:37:04,630 --> 00:36:56,630
um by the way we have

693
00:37:09,270 --> 00:37:06,710
yeah

694
00:37:10,630 --> 00:37:09,280
that may be like the same thing serves

695
00:37:12,550 --> 00:37:10,640
like i'm not

696
00:37:15,190 --> 00:37:12,560
positive

697
00:37:18,630 --> 00:37:17,190
you know there's kind of a

698
00:37:21,750 --> 00:37:18,640
be a new

699
00:37:23,990 --> 00:37:21,760
some things i'm gonna i'm not gonna know

700
00:37:25,030 --> 00:37:24,000
some things i won't know but

701
00:37:27,589 --> 00:37:25,040
um

702
00:37:29,030 --> 00:37:27,599
let me give a quick shout out to dan at

703
00:37:31,589 --> 00:37:29,040
signal

704
00:37:37,270 --> 00:37:31,599
for the stickers

705
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,349
because that's this one here

706
00:37:44,790 --> 00:37:43,190
what i'm here

707
00:37:50,230 --> 00:37:44,800
you gotta click the link spaghetti in

708
00:37:53,430 --> 00:37:51,750
or uh

709
00:37:57,109 --> 00:37:53,440
yeah

710
00:38:01,430 --> 00:37:57,119
so you click that link in your email

711
00:38:10,390 --> 00:38:02,230
so

712
00:38:12,230 --> 00:38:10,400
you know the dod directives and

713
00:38:17,270 --> 00:38:12,240
everything um

714
00:38:21,589 --> 00:38:20,390
if anything i hope

715
00:38:23,990 --> 00:38:21,599
that some of the good stuff comes

716
00:38:25,670 --> 00:38:24,000
through you know i've spent so much time

717
00:38:27,910 --> 00:38:25,680
on the phone making phone calls and

718
00:38:31,349 --> 00:38:27,920
stuff like that and when you talk to

719
00:38:33,589 --> 00:38:31,359
people you kind of come up with a

720
00:38:35,349 --> 00:38:33,599
you know a look for them what you think

721
00:38:36,310 --> 00:38:35,359
they look like

722
00:38:39,020 --> 00:38:36,320
and

723
00:38:41,670 --> 00:38:39,030
i'm always super wrong

724
00:38:44,829 --> 00:38:41,680
[Laughter]

725
00:38:47,510 --> 00:38:44,839
joey yeah i'm on tv

726
00:38:50,230 --> 00:38:47,520
yeah i've like never i've only done this

727
00:38:52,230 --> 00:38:50,240
in a few like meetings oh okay well it

728
00:38:54,230 --> 00:38:52,240
sounds good you look good yeah yeah you

729
00:38:56,550 --> 00:38:54,240
can even know echoes or anything i don't

730
00:39:00,150 --> 00:38:56,560
have a mic um you should probably get a

731
00:39:01,670 --> 00:39:00,160
mic if you keep doing it but

732
00:39:03,670 --> 00:39:01,680
um

733
00:39:05,750 --> 00:39:03,680
yeah what's up with you

734
00:39:07,990 --> 00:39:05,760
not much man you decided to take a

735
00:39:10,870 --> 00:39:08,000
vacation on a very busy week and you

736
00:39:14,390 --> 00:39:10,880
followed you yeah i know it wasn't at

737
00:39:16,150 --> 00:39:14,400
first and then it turned out to be

738
00:39:18,630 --> 00:39:16,160
good stuff like that alex dietrich did

739
00:39:21,270 --> 00:39:18,640
an interview with alien girl

740
00:39:23,030 --> 00:39:21,280
right and uh lou did an interview with a

741
00:39:28,310 --> 00:39:23,040
guy in um

742
00:39:30,790 --> 00:39:28,320
scotland which was cool oh max yeah

743
00:39:34,310 --> 00:39:30,800
in holland right he's over in europe now

744
00:39:35,829 --> 00:39:34,320
right uh they were in san marino

745
00:39:38,870 --> 00:39:35,839
italy

746
00:39:42,790 --> 00:39:38,880
yeah and um

747
00:39:44,550 --> 00:39:42,800
oh the angeli thing do you see that um

748
00:39:47,349 --> 00:39:44,560
is there a latest scoop there or

749
00:39:49,430 --> 00:39:47,359
something or just what lou said about it

750
00:39:51,750 --> 00:39:49,440
nothing really new i mean the only real

751
00:39:53,430 --> 00:39:51,760
truth bomb with the angelic she did an

752
00:39:56,150 --> 00:39:53,440
interview with the guy i think his name

753
00:39:58,150 --> 00:39:56,160
is um well it's channel's truth seeker

754
00:40:01,190 --> 00:39:58,160
kind of cool good looks very velvet

755
00:40:03,030 --> 00:40:01,200
underground this guy cool it was all

756
00:40:04,790 --> 00:40:03,040
pretty much repeat except there were a

757
00:40:07,430 --> 00:40:04,800
few things that were noteworthy about it

758
00:40:10,390 --> 00:40:07,440
like for one thing she was talking

759
00:40:11,589 --> 00:40:10,400
um and like a couple times during the

760
00:40:13,910 --> 00:40:11,599
interview

761
00:40:16,069 --> 00:40:13,920
she like looked over and like

762
00:40:17,750 --> 00:40:16,079
the higher beings were talking to her

763
00:40:20,150 --> 00:40:17,760
like the higher being said hello to the

764
00:40:23,349 --> 00:40:20,160
guy through her which was an odd moment

765
00:40:25,990 --> 00:40:23,359
well i have to watch it and um

766
00:40:29,109 --> 00:40:26,000
the other really only noteworthy true

767
00:40:31,270 --> 00:40:29,119
like truth nugget was that um

768
00:40:32,950 --> 00:40:31,280
she said that uh

769
00:40:35,270 --> 00:40:32,960
elon musk

770
00:40:37,670 --> 00:40:35,280
knows a lot more than he claims but

771
00:40:39,270 --> 00:40:37,680
that's not really news

772
00:40:41,670 --> 00:40:39,280
interesting

773
00:40:43,990 --> 00:40:41,680
did you just tweet dude they blew up one

774
00:40:47,030 --> 00:40:44,000
of his rockets on the launch pad in

775
00:40:48,710 --> 00:40:47,040
2016. go watch that video they blew it

776
00:40:58,400 --> 00:40:48,720
out

777
00:41:02,309 --> 00:41:00,630
[Music]

778
00:41:04,550 --> 00:41:02,319
to get to the point where he's at right

779
00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:04,560
now to where he's in direct competition

780
00:41:08,470 --> 00:41:06,240
for government contracts with uh

781
00:41:10,390 --> 00:41:08,480
lockheed and northrop who have actually

782
00:41:12,790 --> 00:41:10,400
gained up on

783
00:41:17,589 --> 00:41:12,800
spacex to win that contract back

784
00:41:21,910 --> 00:41:19,109
without knowing i think they're sending

785
00:41:22,950 --> 00:41:21,920
civilians up tonight right

786
00:41:25,430 --> 00:41:22,960
um

787
00:41:27,910 --> 00:41:25,440
yeah and spacex i believe right that's

788
00:41:30,230 --> 00:41:27,920
interesting i wonder if how how

789
00:41:32,470 --> 00:41:30,240
strict those ndas are because those

790
00:41:34,710 --> 00:41:32,480
folks don't have contracts but they

791
00:41:36,230 --> 00:41:34,720
probably have contracts with spacex so i

792
00:41:37,109 --> 00:41:36,240
wonder if they see anything if they can

793
00:41:39,510 --> 00:41:37,119
talk

794
00:41:41,829 --> 00:41:39,520
oh probably not

795
00:41:44,630 --> 00:41:41,839
it doesn't seem like anybody can i was

796
00:41:46,870 --> 00:41:44,640
asking uh pilots though you know on my

797
00:41:49,109 --> 00:41:46,880
trip to uh san marino

798
00:41:51,349 --> 00:41:49,119
i would ask pilots yeah

799
00:41:52,950 --> 00:41:51,359
let me ask you did you go to a cockpit

800
00:41:54,550 --> 00:41:52,960
like a little kid hey can i see the

801
00:41:56,550 --> 00:41:54,560
cockpit and like

802
00:42:00,069 --> 00:41:56,560
flight attendant

803
00:42:02,870 --> 00:42:01,270
no they

804
00:42:06,870 --> 00:42:02,880
look like they were going to restrain me

805
00:42:11,349 --> 00:42:09,750
no but it's it's interesting

806
00:42:13,430 --> 00:42:11,359
but i won't do it

807
00:42:17,190 --> 00:42:13,440
the different reactions one guy just

808
00:42:19,109 --> 00:42:17,200
absolutely said no no uh one guy his

809
00:42:21,349 --> 00:42:19,119
face lit up and said i haven't but i

810
00:42:22,309 --> 00:42:21,359
know a lot that happened some weird

811
00:42:23,829 --> 00:42:22,319
stuff

812
00:42:26,069 --> 00:42:23,839
and then uh

813
00:42:28,069 --> 00:42:26,079
the last guy has said

814
00:42:28,829 --> 00:42:28,079
well i asked are we gonna see a ufo on

815
00:42:32,870 --> 00:42:28,839
the way

816
00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:32,880
home and and he got really confused

817
00:42:37,270 --> 00:42:34,480
and said

818
00:42:42,470 --> 00:42:37,280
well i hope so

819
00:42:45,190 --> 00:42:44,390
but yeah so

820
00:42:47,910 --> 00:42:45,200
yeah

821
00:42:49,750 --> 00:42:47,920
get back to it and jelly um i asked her

822
00:42:52,069 --> 00:42:49,760
to come on the show and do an interview

823
00:42:53,829 --> 00:42:52,079
we'll see what she says dude

824
00:42:56,790 --> 00:42:53,839
you know if that guy

825
00:43:00,390 --> 00:42:56,800
could get it you could get her i do

826
00:43:02,790 --> 00:43:00,400
you know well i messaged her so if if

827
00:43:03,990 --> 00:43:02,800
you guys uh that are watching her on

828
00:43:06,710 --> 00:43:04,000
twitter

829
00:43:08,470 --> 00:43:06,720
you know tweet her hey

830
00:43:11,430 --> 00:43:08,480
do it is that how you get a hold of her

831
00:43:13,430 --> 00:43:11,440
i mean she bailed on um alien girl

832
00:43:15,270 --> 00:43:13,440
she bailed on her oh really i had a

833
00:43:17,109 --> 00:43:15,280
scheduled appointment i mean a scheduled

834
00:43:19,910 --> 00:43:17,119
interview with her and then she bailed

835
00:43:22,150 --> 00:43:19,920
and that's how we got alex dietrich

836
00:43:24,150 --> 00:43:22,160
okay gotcha it's cool because dietrich

837
00:43:27,670 --> 00:43:24,160
never really does much she

838
00:43:30,630 --> 00:43:27,680
almost no and i like the way alien girl

839
00:43:33,030 --> 00:43:30,640
handled her because um

840
00:43:34,710 --> 00:43:33,040
you know i think if somebody was more

841
00:43:36,790 --> 00:43:34,720
she could have been grilled i mean for

842
00:43:39,109 --> 00:43:36,800
those that don't know alex dietrich

843
00:43:40,630 --> 00:43:39,119
chased the tic tac with fravor right

844
00:43:42,230 --> 00:43:40,640
right she was

845
00:43:46,150 --> 00:43:42,240
basically right there

846
00:43:49,270 --> 00:43:46,160
and uh she has no real social media

847
00:43:51,670 --> 00:43:49,280
you know footprint so um alien girl kind

848
00:43:53,589 --> 00:43:51,680
of treated her like just like one of the

849
00:43:55,190 --> 00:43:53,599
girls kind of thing it was a really nice

850
00:43:57,030 --> 00:43:55,200
pleasant thing and i think she's sort of

851
00:43:59,109 --> 00:43:57,040
one turned to maybe doing more

852
00:44:01,589 --> 00:43:59,119
interviews i hope yeah that would be

853
00:44:03,589 --> 00:44:01,599
cool um whether she likes it or not

854
00:44:05,670 --> 00:44:03,599
she's part of the mythology now man

855
00:44:07,270 --> 00:44:05,680
she's in there yeah

856
00:44:08,950 --> 00:44:07,280
you know and i don't blame her either

857
00:44:12,870 --> 00:44:08,960
because you look at some of this stuff

858
00:44:14,150 --> 00:44:12,880
and how some people treat other people

859
00:44:15,589 --> 00:44:14,160
you know

860
00:44:19,430 --> 00:44:15,599
i can see how she'd be a little

861
00:44:20,950 --> 00:44:19,440
apprehensive getting involved you know

862
00:44:22,950 --> 00:44:20,960
some of these folks can't do anything

863
00:44:25,670 --> 00:44:22,960
like even like tonight they're talking

864
00:44:28,870 --> 00:44:25,680
about like dolan vs greenwald like it's

865
00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:28,880
a pay-per-view freaking wwe match

866
00:44:32,069 --> 00:44:30,480
because two ufologists have a

867
00:44:33,109 --> 00:44:32,079
disagreement

868
00:44:34,710 --> 00:44:33,119
um

869
00:44:37,589 --> 00:44:34,720
yeah everybody wants to pin everybody

870
00:44:39,910 --> 00:44:37,599
and make drama out of it who is

871
00:44:41,430 --> 00:44:39,920
steven do you know steven publicly

872
00:44:42,630 --> 00:44:41,440
stated that's the guy that did the

873
00:44:44,950 --> 00:44:42,640
interview

874
00:44:48,150 --> 00:44:44,960
on twitter that

875
00:44:49,430 --> 00:44:48,160
he found wayne's yeah yeah that kid that

876
00:44:51,109 --> 00:44:49,440
got that kid

877
00:44:53,030 --> 00:44:51,119
i'm sorry when i say kid that's a that's

878
00:44:54,710 --> 00:44:53,040
a figure of speech from new york

879
00:44:56,950 --> 00:44:54,720
you're 50 years old you could be a kid

880
00:44:59,190 --> 00:44:56,960
no problem but that guy claimed that he

881
00:45:01,349 --> 00:44:59,200
did some background check on her and all

882
00:45:03,910 --> 00:45:01,359
of her credentials checked out as far as

883
00:45:05,829 --> 00:45:03,920
who she was he also claimed that he did

884
00:45:07,349 --> 00:45:05,839
some real research and found this

885
00:45:09,430 --> 00:45:07,359
mountain like

886
00:45:11,829 --> 00:45:09,440
he found the property owner in the

887
00:45:14,950 --> 00:45:11,839
mountain and um

888
00:45:15,829 --> 00:45:14,960
that was pretty cool i mean yeah

889
00:45:19,750 --> 00:45:15,839
yeah

890
00:45:21,430 --> 00:45:19,760
been eating all my food and not paying

891
00:45:23,030 --> 00:45:21,440
rent

892
00:45:24,230 --> 00:45:23,040
yeah i don't know if you talk that's

893
00:45:26,390 --> 00:45:24,240
quite

894
00:45:29,030 --> 00:45:26,400
curious about you know did he go up

895
00:45:30,870 --> 00:45:29,040
there to get some back ranch like geez

896
00:45:33,910 --> 00:45:30,880
is it true that they really like banana

897
00:45:37,430 --> 00:45:35,510
you remember that story i think they

898
00:45:38,790 --> 00:45:37,440
like cattle tongue though they seem to

899
00:45:41,430 --> 00:45:38,800
have a you know

900
00:45:43,670 --> 00:45:41,440
you remember that story the banana

901
00:45:47,349 --> 00:45:43,680
yeah there was a story that this uh old

902
00:45:48,470 --> 00:45:47,359
gentleman told that a ufo stopped by his

903
00:45:51,349 --> 00:45:48,480
ranch

904
00:45:53,910 --> 00:45:51,359
and the beings came out and

905
00:45:55,349 --> 00:45:53,920
made him pancakes with their own

906
00:45:57,589 --> 00:45:55,359
ingredients

907
00:45:59,349 --> 00:45:57,599
which um they later tested and it was

908
00:46:01,190 --> 00:45:59,359
just like normal

909
00:46:02,630 --> 00:46:01,200
oat and stuff

910
00:46:04,790 --> 00:46:02,640
but yeah it was a

911
00:46:07,109 --> 00:46:04,800
interesting story like

912
00:46:09,510 --> 00:46:07,119
um there's actually you know it's kind

913
00:46:10,710 --> 00:46:09,520
of parts that are believable but

914
00:46:12,470 --> 00:46:10,720
parts are

915
00:46:14,230 --> 00:46:12,480
you know like everything else

916
00:46:17,510 --> 00:46:14,240
i don't know you know with the angelic

917
00:46:19,990 --> 00:46:17,520
thing i'm now suspending my belief um

918
00:46:20,790 --> 00:46:20,000
until she does it just basically that's

919
00:46:23,030 --> 00:46:20,800
it

920
00:46:24,390 --> 00:46:23,040
oh yeah she's credible thus far she

921
00:46:26,309 --> 00:46:24,400
doesn't seem like she's in it for the

922
00:46:28,390 --> 00:46:26,319
money she doesn't seem like she's in it

923
00:46:31,109 --> 00:46:28,400
for the fame

924
00:46:32,309 --> 00:46:31,119
but she's made an amazing claim so

925
00:46:34,550 --> 00:46:32,319
that's it

926
00:46:35,829 --> 00:46:34,560
i mean doesn't that always kind of make

927
00:46:36,630 --> 00:46:35,839
you wonder

928
00:46:42,630 --> 00:46:36,640
like

929
00:46:45,109 --> 00:46:42,640
should say in ufology are

930
00:46:46,390 --> 00:46:45,119
if if you're in it for fame or money

931
00:46:48,790 --> 00:46:46,400
it's like you're kind of picking the

932
00:46:50,950 --> 00:46:48,800
wrong topic

933
00:46:52,470 --> 00:46:50,960
you know it's it's a small community

934
00:46:53,430 --> 00:46:52,480
it's

935
00:46:55,349 --> 00:46:53,440
you know

936
00:46:58,150 --> 00:46:55,359
your reach is only gonna be so far as

937
00:46:59,510 --> 00:46:58,160
far as like popularity or money

938
00:47:02,309 --> 00:46:59,520
um

939
00:47:04,470 --> 00:47:02,319
culture for sure yeah and then you know

940
00:47:06,630 --> 00:47:04,480
there's other things that do i guess

941
00:47:09,109 --> 00:47:06,640
there's layers of a subculture like you

942
00:47:11,270 --> 00:47:09,119
know there's star seeds over here and

943
00:47:13,270 --> 00:47:11,280
these over there and

944
00:47:15,510 --> 00:47:13,280
who knows what's going on with it you

945
00:47:18,150 --> 00:47:15,520
know but i mean there's people like um i

946
00:47:20,870 --> 00:47:18,160
mean wilcox tries to sell

947
00:47:23,190 --> 00:47:20,880
you know contact information and green

948
00:47:24,710 --> 00:47:23,200
dr greer is doing his thing yeah you

949
00:47:27,270 --> 00:47:24,720
know so people are trying to make a

950
00:47:29,190 --> 00:47:27,280
hustle out of it spaghetti let me ask

951
00:47:31,589 --> 00:47:29,200
you how long have you been looking into

952
00:47:33,670 --> 00:47:31,599
this stuff or paying attention

953
00:47:35,910 --> 00:47:33,680
well i've been paying attention my whole

954
00:47:38,870 --> 00:47:35,920
life i mean i was seven or eight years

955
00:47:40,870 --> 00:47:38,880
old when um close encounters of the

956
00:47:42,390 --> 00:47:40,880
third kind came out the same summer as

957
00:47:44,150 --> 00:47:42,400
star wars and i was that one

958
00:47:46,630 --> 00:47:44,160
eight-year-old kid that was more into

959
00:47:48,390 --> 00:47:46,640
like close encounters than star wars

960
00:47:51,750 --> 00:47:48,400
the first book you could trace i guess

961
00:47:54,309 --> 00:47:51,760
in uh the first book i you could date me

962
00:47:56,470 --> 00:47:54,319
i read books before but willie street

963
00:47:58,549 --> 00:47:56,480
was communion you could basically write

964
00:47:59,589 --> 00:47:58,559
around 87

965
00:48:01,670 --> 00:47:59,599
88

966
00:48:04,150 --> 00:48:01,680
is when i started reading

967
00:48:06,630 --> 00:48:04,160
and then i read ferociously for about 19

968
00:48:07,589 --> 00:48:06,640
years until kids came into the picture

969
00:48:08,950 --> 00:48:07,599
yeah

970
00:48:11,109 --> 00:48:08,960
you know because kids have a way of kind

971
00:48:15,510 --> 00:48:11,119
of ruining the reading room

972
00:48:17,670 --> 00:48:15,520
yeah my dogs do that but uh

973
00:48:20,390 --> 00:48:17,680
but yeah since about then but i followed

974
00:48:22,150 --> 00:48:20,400
it all the way i mean um you know we

975
00:48:23,910 --> 00:48:22,160
always had art bell and coast to coast

976
00:48:24,950 --> 00:48:23,920
at night to kind of keep it through the

977
00:48:27,589 --> 00:48:24,960
walls

978
00:48:30,069 --> 00:48:27,599
what was what set you off what did you

979
00:48:32,790 --> 00:48:30,079
have of your own experience or

980
00:48:35,589 --> 00:48:32,800
some fascination

981
00:48:38,309 --> 00:48:35,599
first of all this is this might sound

982
00:48:41,270 --> 00:48:38,319
like a contradiction but i am not into

983
00:48:43,430 --> 00:48:41,280
fiction at all me neither i am not a

984
00:48:44,710 --> 00:48:43,440
fiction person i don't a lot of people

985
00:48:51,349 --> 00:48:44,720
are like that here

986
00:48:55,829 --> 00:48:53,109
something that's made up

987
00:48:57,750 --> 00:48:55,839
and i always thought that ufos were real

988
00:48:59,430 --> 00:48:57,760
it had the um

989
00:49:01,750 --> 00:48:59,440
consistency within the stories of the

990
00:49:03,829 --> 00:49:01,760
witnesses true it has a government

991
00:49:05,670 --> 00:49:03,839
cover-up which you know that's cool

992
00:49:07,349 --> 00:49:05,680
because i do love me a good conspiracy

993
00:49:09,190 --> 00:49:07,359
although i don't think deep down them

994
00:49:10,790 --> 00:49:09,200
but it was clear the government was

995
00:49:13,030 --> 00:49:10,800
covering things up

996
00:49:15,270 --> 00:49:13,040
my father also was a lock was an

997
00:49:16,870 --> 00:49:15,280
aerospace engineer he worked for all the

998
00:49:19,430 --> 00:49:16,880
big guy he worked for northrup for

999
00:49:21,670 --> 00:49:19,440
grumman for fairchild for boeing

1000
00:49:24,230 --> 00:49:21,680
he worked on the b2 in palmdale

1001
00:49:25,990 --> 00:49:24,240
california when they rolled it out

1002
00:49:29,030 --> 00:49:26,000
and um

1003
00:49:31,430 --> 00:49:29,040
yeah he was he was under nda for a while

1004
00:49:33,750 --> 00:49:31,440
yeah yeah yeah isn't it kind of like you

1005
00:49:36,309 --> 00:49:33,760
always are pretty much

1006
00:49:37,829 --> 00:49:36,319
yeah look i had ndas in my professional

1007
00:49:39,910 --> 00:49:37,839
career and there was nowhere in the

1008
00:49:41,990 --> 00:49:39,920
military yeah

1009
00:49:44,549 --> 00:49:42,000
i had contracts i couldn't go work for a

1010
00:49:45,589 --> 00:49:44,559
competitor for five years i'd be sued

1011
00:49:47,430 --> 00:49:45,599
yeah

1012
00:49:48,390 --> 00:49:47,440
um so you know they're all over the

1013
00:49:51,270 --> 00:49:48,400
place

1014
00:49:54,549 --> 00:49:51,280
but no i've had 30 years of you know i

1015
00:49:57,190 --> 00:49:54,559
just got into it and i read you know

1016
00:49:59,829 --> 00:49:57,200
obviously back in the day stan freeman

1017
00:50:03,430 --> 00:49:59,839
and then the big three of the abduction

1018
00:50:04,750 --> 00:50:03,440
john mack bud hopkins dr david jacobs

1019
00:50:07,109 --> 00:50:04,760
um linda howe

1020
00:50:10,829 --> 00:50:07,119
[Music]

1021
00:50:13,510 --> 00:50:10,839
let me let me ask you who was um

1022
00:50:16,790 --> 00:50:13,520
maybe your biggest influence let's say

1023
00:50:19,829 --> 00:50:16,800
you were to pick uh a personality right

1024
00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:19,839
that is more uh known in the community

1025
00:50:27,349 --> 00:50:25,589
no just in the history of ufology who'd

1026
00:50:29,910 --> 00:50:27,359
you go with really good ones i mean stan

1027
00:50:31,670 --> 00:50:29,920
freeman arpel called stan freeman the

1028
00:50:32,950 --> 00:50:31,680
dean of ufology like that'd be your

1029
00:50:35,670 --> 00:50:32,960
avatar

1030
00:50:37,190 --> 00:50:35,680
stanton friedman no

1031
00:50:38,230 --> 00:50:37,200
okay

1032
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:38,240
no that's

1033
00:50:43,510 --> 00:50:39,290
that's ego

1034
00:50:47,430 --> 00:50:44,950
um

1035
00:50:49,430 --> 00:50:47,440
you know look i followed i followed i

1036
00:50:51,030 --> 00:50:49,440
tried to follow legitimate researchers

1037
00:50:52,390 --> 00:50:51,040
okay because there are a lot of quacks

1038
00:50:54,549 --> 00:50:52,400
in this i mean i don't know i thought

1039
00:50:57,109 --> 00:50:54,559
george damsky was quack

1040
00:51:00,390 --> 00:50:57,119
um not at first

1041
00:51:02,549 --> 00:51:00,400
but the thing in the 1950s in the con it

1042
00:51:05,990 --> 00:51:02,559
was the contact d it wasn't like uh

1043
00:51:08,150 --> 00:51:06,000
abduction right ufos were landing and

1044
00:51:09,750 --> 00:51:08,160
talking to people and like trying to

1045
00:51:11,829 --> 00:51:09,760
give them advice on how to take care of

1046
00:51:13,109 --> 00:51:11,839
the planet yeah and that was a weird

1047
00:51:14,549 --> 00:51:13,119
movement because that happened to a

1048
00:51:16,710 --> 00:51:14,559
bunch of people

1049
00:51:17,670 --> 00:51:16,720
yeah i i just thought that was a little

1050
00:51:19,829 --> 00:51:17,680
weird

1051
00:51:22,549 --> 00:51:19,839
strieber see here's the thing i i would

1052
00:51:25,270 --> 00:51:22,559
say i started my research in reading

1053
00:51:27,910 --> 00:51:25,280
with streeter because before then there

1054
00:51:29,110 --> 00:51:27,920
was always the belief in flying things

1055
00:51:30,470 --> 00:51:29,120
in the sky right

1056
00:51:32,150 --> 00:51:30,480
[Music]

1057
00:51:34,150 --> 00:51:32,160
the government was lying that was the

1058
00:51:35,349 --> 00:51:34,160
thing strieber was the first one to say

1059
00:51:37,670 --> 00:51:35,359
hey

1060
00:51:38,630 --> 00:51:37,680
these things came into my house and took

1061
00:51:40,630 --> 00:51:38,640
me

1062
00:51:43,510 --> 00:51:40,640
so it was a little first one

1063
00:51:46,549 --> 00:51:43,520
well the first one i literally read

1064
00:51:48,630 --> 00:51:46,559
and went holy crap because look

1065
00:51:50,069 --> 00:51:48,640
everybody that gets into this have i

1066
00:51:52,549 --> 00:51:50,079
think we talked about like the the

1067
00:51:54,549 --> 00:51:52,559
believability wall like everybody has a

1068
00:51:57,750 --> 00:51:54,559
believability everybody has a different

1069
00:51:59,750 --> 00:51:57,760
ability ball and street that book scared

1070
00:52:02,549 --> 00:51:59,760
me because that was the first time i

1071
00:52:05,829 --> 00:52:02,559
read and then i went and read uh hopkins

1072
00:52:08,230 --> 00:52:05,839
and mac and um yeah

1073
00:52:10,630 --> 00:52:08,240
the other guy jacobs yeah it kind of

1074
00:52:11,670 --> 00:52:10,640
takes maybe especially younger when

1075
00:52:14,630 --> 00:52:11,680
you're

1076
00:52:17,270 --> 00:52:14,640
you know kind of uh enthralled by it all

1077
00:52:19,589 --> 00:52:17,280
as a big giant fun mystery and then you

1078
00:52:21,030 --> 00:52:19,599
run into something like that my

1079
00:52:22,390 --> 00:52:21,040
i had something similar with fire in

1080
00:52:25,829 --> 00:52:22,400
this guy

1081
00:52:30,150 --> 00:52:28,390
it's also been it's it's a long-term

1082
00:52:32,230 --> 00:52:30,160
thing that i don't think like a lot of

1083
00:52:34,150 --> 00:52:32,240
people who are like new to it realize

1084
00:52:35,670 --> 00:52:34,160
that this is this goes on for decades

1085
00:52:36,950 --> 00:52:35,680
and decades like i always said it was

1086
00:52:38,470 --> 00:52:36,960
art bell

1087
00:52:40,230 --> 00:52:38,480
like through all those years that would

1088
00:52:41,750 --> 00:52:40,240
like kind of held it together because at

1089
00:52:45,030 --> 00:52:41,760
night you could tune in and get this

1090
00:52:47,589 --> 00:52:45,040
stuff like and there were huge lulls and

1091
00:52:49,190 --> 00:52:47,599
gaps in the information

1092
00:52:52,390 --> 00:52:49,200
i'll give you an example the the

1093
00:52:55,349 --> 00:52:52,400
majestic 12 documents were leaked

1094
00:52:57,270 --> 00:52:55,359
in 1984 they were dumped into a mailbox

1095
00:52:58,829 --> 00:52:57,280
of a tv producer

1096
00:53:01,829 --> 00:52:58,839
and

1097
00:53:04,470 --> 00:53:01,839
um stan it got to stan friedman right it

1098
00:53:06,390 --> 00:53:04,480
took 12 years for stan freeman to write

1099
00:53:08,870 --> 00:53:06,400
a book about his analysis on those

1100
00:53:11,109 --> 00:53:08,880
documents right this thing doesn't move

1101
00:53:13,190 --> 00:53:11,119
at the speed of twitter it just doesn't

1102
00:53:14,790 --> 00:53:13,200
a lot of those are the ones i'm showing

1103
00:53:19,109 --> 00:53:14,800
these days

1104
00:53:24,790 --> 00:53:21,750
like i haven't like um studied it for

1105
00:53:27,109 --> 00:53:24,800
three decades it i think it gives me

1106
00:53:29,430 --> 00:53:27,119
um what frank zappa one of my heroes he

1107
00:53:31,670 --> 00:53:29,440
called like conceptual continuity like

1108
00:53:33,750 --> 00:53:31,680
you understand it going all the way back

1109
00:53:34,710 --> 00:53:33,760
and okay how does this all come into

1110
00:53:37,190 --> 00:53:34,720
play

1111
00:53:40,470 --> 00:53:37,200
when i when the new york times

1112
00:53:42,069 --> 00:53:40,480
put the front page in 2017

1113
00:53:45,670 --> 00:53:42,079
i literally thought there was going to

1114
00:53:47,990 --> 00:53:45,680
be a a tidal wave of everything like

1115
00:53:49,910 --> 00:53:48,000
everyone's coming now everyone's coming

1116
00:53:52,549 --> 00:53:49,920
it wasn't a tidal wave it was more like

1117
00:53:54,950 --> 00:53:52,559
a rising tide like it's still kind of

1118
00:53:57,589 --> 00:53:54,960
rising but i've had those moments when i

1119
00:53:59,349 --> 00:53:57,599
read the day after roswell in the 90s

1120
00:54:01,030 --> 00:53:59,359
colonel corso's book

1121
00:54:02,950 --> 00:54:01,040
i thought i even said these were the

1122
00:54:04,549 --> 00:54:02,960
words i said to my friends and my people

1123
00:54:06,790 --> 00:54:04,559
around me i said you know there's been

1124
00:54:09,270 --> 00:54:06,800
whistleblowers before but this guy's

1125
00:54:11,190 --> 00:54:09,280
book blows the door off the hinges

1126
00:54:13,190 --> 00:54:11,200
there's no way they could ignore this

1127
00:54:14,870 --> 00:54:13,200
anymore of course there was the right

1128
00:54:17,109 --> 00:54:14,880
guy in the right place at the right time

1129
00:54:18,630 --> 00:54:17,119
with the right credentials and he blew

1130
00:54:20,710 --> 00:54:18,640
the lid off

1131
00:54:23,030 --> 00:54:20,720
and nothing happened

1132
00:54:25,190 --> 00:54:23,040
nothing happened with corso it still

1133
00:54:25,910 --> 00:54:25,200
lingers on it's still a very important

1134
00:54:28,230 --> 00:54:25,920
one

1135
00:54:29,270 --> 00:54:28,240
do you believe him of course yes

1136
00:54:30,309 --> 00:54:29,280
yeah

1137
00:54:35,190 --> 00:54:30,319
i do

1138
00:54:38,069 --> 00:54:35,200
that are valid up against him i heard

1139
00:54:40,230 --> 00:54:38,079
well maybe um that some woman has the

1140
00:54:42,390 --> 00:54:40,240
patent for fiber optic

1141
00:54:43,829 --> 00:54:42,400
that's not true it's a chinese-american

1142
00:54:45,910 --> 00:54:43,839
man that has a

1143
00:54:48,390 --> 00:54:45,920
the the patent for fiber optic and he

1144
00:54:50,710 --> 00:54:48,400
worked for bell laboratories the very

1145
00:54:53,589 --> 00:54:50,720
laboratory that corso leaked the fiber

1146
00:54:57,109 --> 00:54:53,599
optics into so i haven't heard any any

1147
00:54:59,750 --> 00:54:57,119
uh interesting anything to to discredit

1148
00:55:02,470 --> 00:54:59,760
him yet but i keep my mind open dude i

1149
00:55:04,470 --> 00:55:02,480
mean things can't change it's like

1150
00:55:06,069 --> 00:55:04,480
you don't really know until one's in

1151
00:55:07,990 --> 00:55:06,079
front of you and you can shake its hand

1152
00:55:09,829 --> 00:55:08,000
right

1153
00:55:12,150 --> 00:55:09,839
and if things do

1154
00:55:14,470 --> 00:55:12,160
things do change i mean look at these

1155
00:55:16,549 --> 00:55:14,480
wilson documents going back and forth i

1156
00:55:18,870 --> 00:55:16,559
thought they were legit dolan thinks

1157
00:55:20,549 --> 00:55:18,880
they're the biggest leak in the history

1158
00:55:21,910 --> 00:55:20,559
of ufology i thought that was a little

1159
00:55:23,750 --> 00:55:21,920
grandiose

1160
00:55:25,910 --> 00:55:23,760
but now um

1161
00:55:28,950 --> 00:55:25,920
you know greenwald pulled out did you

1162
00:55:30,870 --> 00:55:28,960
see what greenwald pulled out like

1163
00:55:32,710 --> 00:55:30,880
there's you know the legal disclaimers

1164
00:55:34,589 --> 00:55:32,720
where it says that this is a violation

1165
00:55:37,670 --> 00:55:34,599
of law section

1166
00:55:40,150 --> 00:55:37,680
301.991 see it's got those little codes

1167
00:55:41,990 --> 00:55:40,160
on them for the legal code

1168
00:55:44,390 --> 00:55:42,000
yeah so greenwall went and looked up

1169
00:55:46,069 --> 00:55:44,400
that code and it has nothing to do with

1170
00:55:51,670 --> 00:55:46,079
secrecy it has something to do with like

1171
00:55:56,230 --> 00:55:53,670
but it has nothing to do so now it makes

1172
00:55:59,270 --> 00:55:56,240
you rethink the whole document

1173
00:56:00,710 --> 00:55:59,280
yeah that's uh phony this is what i

1174
00:56:02,549 --> 00:56:00,720
would call that

1175
00:56:05,190 --> 00:56:02,559
first documents the way that the way

1176
00:56:08,390 --> 00:56:05,200
that they're worded first of all they're

1177
00:56:10,150 --> 00:56:08,400
basically minutes to a meeting sure yeah

1178
00:56:11,829 --> 00:56:10,160
i've read a bunch of those yeah and not

1179
00:56:14,549 --> 00:56:11,839
some leaked government documents and

1180
00:56:16,789 --> 00:56:14,559
they weren't written during the meeting

1181
00:56:18,549 --> 00:56:16,799
they were written after the meeting so

1182
00:56:20,870 --> 00:56:18,559
it's written like a narrative like

1183
00:56:22,630 --> 00:56:20,880
almost like a script this guy said this

1184
00:56:24,309 --> 00:56:22,640
this guy says this this guy says this

1185
00:56:26,789 --> 00:56:24,319
this guy says this that's just the way

1186
00:56:28,950 --> 00:56:26,799
those those documents flow

1187
00:56:32,470 --> 00:56:28,960
and it's not like a normal you know like

1188
00:56:34,470 --> 00:56:32,480
the documents you pull out you know

1189
00:56:36,230 --> 00:56:34,480
so it so it's a little weird i don't i

1190
00:56:38,710 --> 00:56:36,240
don't know what to think on it

1191
00:56:40,549 --> 00:56:38,720
the the couple things that

1192
00:56:42,230 --> 00:56:40,559
there are a couple things that struck me

1193
00:56:43,430 --> 00:56:42,240
about the wilson notes and everything

1194
00:56:46,470 --> 00:56:43,440
and um

1195
00:56:48,710 --> 00:56:46,480
i would say the the first of which is

1196
00:56:50,309 --> 00:56:48,720
there are names

1197
00:56:51,349 --> 00:56:50,319
listed in there

1198
00:56:53,510 --> 00:56:51,359
that

1199
00:56:56,309 --> 00:56:53,520
did work at the gov just in minor ways

1200
00:56:58,230 --> 00:56:56,319
like um one part was um

1201
00:57:01,349 --> 00:56:58,240
you know something about talk to this

1202
00:57:03,510 --> 00:57:01,359
lady judy daley or something and she'll

1203
00:57:04,950 --> 00:57:03,520
be able to fill you in or something so

1204
00:57:07,270 --> 00:57:04,960
looking her up

1205
00:57:09,589 --> 00:57:07,280
not easy to find

1206
00:57:11,910 --> 00:57:09,599
but sure [\h__\h] she worked there in in

1207
00:57:14,069 --> 00:57:11,920
that position so it's not like she was

1208
00:57:16,390 --> 00:57:14,079
just some known person that you can just

1209
00:57:18,390 --> 00:57:16,400
you know owl throw with her in there you

1210
00:57:21,670 --> 00:57:18,400
know you had to

1211
00:57:23,910 --> 00:57:21,680
at least dig to find that person to use

1212
00:57:26,230 --> 00:57:23,920
for your fake document you know

1213
00:57:27,349 --> 00:57:26,240
and then the other one is the watch

1214
00:57:31,270 --> 00:57:27,359
committee

1215
00:57:33,910 --> 00:57:31,280
people if

1216
00:57:36,069 --> 00:57:33,920
you even knew that they really existed

1217
00:57:38,150 --> 00:57:36,079
and were a thing which they are

1218
00:57:40,630 --> 00:57:38,160
and um they did

1219
00:57:42,950 --> 00:57:40,640
do things with ufos now i'm not saying

1220
00:57:45,270 --> 00:57:42,960
that they i have anything to do with

1221
00:57:47,270 --> 00:57:45,280
being zodiac or anything but the fact

1222
00:57:48,549 --> 00:57:47,280
that they really are

1223
00:57:50,549 --> 00:57:48,559
something

1224
00:57:52,870 --> 00:57:50,559
that no one else really talked about

1225
00:57:55,270 --> 00:57:52,880
that frustrates me honestly about the

1226
00:57:57,750 --> 00:57:55,280
wilson document it's

1227
00:58:00,230 --> 00:57:57,760
so solvable because wilson's still

1228
00:58:01,510 --> 00:58:00,240
around yeah he just come out and

1229
00:58:03,910 --> 00:58:01,520
squashed this

1230
00:58:06,069 --> 00:58:03,920
you got a whole community of people now

1231
00:58:08,390 --> 00:58:06,079
just bickering about this

1232
00:58:10,870 --> 00:58:08,400
real research is wasting valuable time

1233
00:58:12,549 --> 00:58:10,880
on it that's my point come out and say

1234
00:58:13,589 --> 00:58:12,559
it dude that's my point revealing

1235
00:58:15,750 --> 00:58:13,599
anything

1236
00:58:17,990 --> 00:58:15,760
just did were you in this meeting did

1237
00:58:20,789 --> 00:58:18,000
these things happen or not

1238
00:58:22,789 --> 00:58:20,799
it's as simple as that so a lot of it's

1239
00:58:24,950 --> 00:58:22,799
like a smoke screen let's send them down

1240
00:58:27,190 --> 00:58:24,960
this rabbit hole down that road

1241
00:58:28,069 --> 00:58:27,200
yeah like what kind of roswell seems to

1242
00:58:33,190 --> 00:58:28,079
me

1243
00:58:35,349 --> 00:58:33,200
controlled event

1244
00:58:36,470 --> 00:58:35,359
you know that you can send everybody

1245
00:58:38,870 --> 00:58:36,480
towards

1246
00:58:40,150 --> 00:58:38,880
you know what happened but i i think

1247
00:58:42,789 --> 00:58:40,160
there's that doesn't mean it didn't

1248
00:58:45,030 --> 00:58:42,799
happen but it can still be used as these

1249
00:58:46,390 --> 00:58:45,040
you know one sample controlled event

1250
00:58:48,870 --> 00:58:46,400
where you can really control that

1251
00:58:51,510 --> 00:58:48,880
narrative and keep people going there

1252
00:58:54,789 --> 00:58:51,520
versus and that definitely happened

1253
00:58:57,270 --> 00:58:54,799
yeah that definitely happens they um

1254
00:58:59,430 --> 00:58:57,280
i i i was thinking about this somebody

1255
00:59:01,109 --> 00:58:59,440
brought up um

1256
00:59:03,270 --> 00:59:01,119
it might have been dolan or something

1257
00:59:05,750 --> 00:59:03,280
that one thing people aren't asking

1258
00:59:07,510 --> 00:59:05,760
about roswell is

1259
00:59:09,589 --> 00:59:07,520
how could a craft that's capable of

1260
00:59:11,829 --> 00:59:09,599
coming here like that just crash out of

1261
00:59:13,990 --> 00:59:11,839
nowhere right here's an interesting

1262
00:59:16,630 --> 00:59:14,000
theory or food for thought

1263
00:59:18,630 --> 00:59:16,640
what if they crashed it on purpose

1264
00:59:19,670 --> 00:59:18,640
what if they basically let the thing go

1265
00:59:21,829 --> 00:59:19,680
down

1266
00:59:23,190 --> 00:59:21,839
in an area where we knew we had national

1267
00:59:24,950 --> 00:59:23,200
laboratories where they knew we did

1268
00:59:27,109 --> 00:59:24,960
nuclear testing where we knew we had a

1269
00:59:29,109 --> 00:59:27,119
nuclear bomber group over there they

1270
00:59:32,470 --> 00:59:29,119
said these must be the smart guys in

1271
00:59:34,150 --> 00:59:32,480
this this you know litter box of a place

1272
00:59:36,789 --> 00:59:34,160
but it'd be like a kamikaze because

1273
00:59:39,270 --> 00:59:36,799
there are aliens in there

1274
00:59:41,109 --> 00:59:39,280
yeah well you know the grays i don't

1275
00:59:43,190 --> 00:59:41,119
know maybe the grays are disposable

1276
00:59:45,430 --> 00:59:43,200
there's people within the artificial you

1277
00:59:47,190 --> 00:59:45,440
know yeah that's true so maybe they just

1278
00:59:49,670 --> 00:59:47,200
said here take this like we would throw

1279
00:59:51,829 --> 00:59:49,680
a throw a cell phone to a caveman check

1280
00:59:55,750 --> 00:59:51,839
this out you know what i mean

1281
00:59:58,870 --> 00:59:57,510
yeah

1282
01:00:01,670 --> 00:59:58,880
you know it's interesting because i

1283
01:00:04,549 --> 01:00:01,680
haven't even really dug into roswell yet

1284
01:00:06,150 --> 01:00:04,559
and i really don't want to for

1285
01:00:07,910 --> 01:00:06,160
you know it's just like i don't like

1286
01:00:09,990 --> 01:00:07,920
touching things that have been so used

1287
01:00:11,190 --> 01:00:10,000
already

1288
01:00:15,030 --> 01:00:11,200
it's like

1289
01:00:17,270 --> 01:00:15,040
i saw somebody a few weeks back

1290
01:00:20,870 --> 01:00:17,280
still debating with travis walton like

1291
01:00:22,390 --> 01:00:20,880
stop it's been four decades yeah no he's

1292
01:00:24,630 --> 01:00:22,400
pretty much plus there are so many

1293
01:00:26,069 --> 01:00:24,640
witnesses it's not even like worth

1294
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:26,079
debating over

1295
01:00:33,510 --> 01:00:32,630
[Laughter]

1296
01:00:35,030 --> 01:00:33,520
uh

1297
01:00:36,069 --> 01:00:35,040
just because

1298
01:00:38,230 --> 01:00:36,079
i think

1299
01:00:40,390 --> 01:00:38,240
maybe it was intentional stirrup

1300
01:00:42,950 --> 01:00:40,400
probably

1301
01:00:46,390 --> 01:00:42,960
you got live forever for that long

1302
01:00:48,390 --> 01:00:46,400
yeah that's pretty good i'll tell you

1303
01:00:49,990 --> 01:00:48,400
but think about it it's only when

1304
01:00:52,230 --> 01:00:50,000
there's a camera on him so what

1305
01:00:56,309 --> 01:00:52,240
percentage is that of his whole time

1306
01:00:58,069 --> 01:00:56,319
spent on earth maybe much like a job

1307
01:01:00,069 --> 01:00:58,079
maybe keep it together for eight hours a

1308
01:01:02,150 --> 01:01:00,079
day do whatever you want when you clock

1309
01:01:05,030 --> 01:01:02,160
out you've made money on it maybe it's

1310
01:01:08,309 --> 01:01:05,040
just hustle who knows thanks dave

1311
01:01:10,870 --> 01:01:08,319
um yeah who knows it's like

1312
01:01:12,710 --> 01:01:10,880
it's kind of like i can't see the chats

1313
01:01:13,430 --> 01:01:12,720
i don't know you can't see the chat why

1314
01:01:16,950 --> 01:01:13,440
not

1315
01:01:21,510 --> 01:01:19,040
no you should oh he just left

1316
01:01:23,349 --> 01:01:21,520
[Laughter]

1317
01:01:26,710 --> 01:01:23,359
he went to go see the chat

1318
01:01:30,309 --> 01:01:28,630
um

1319
01:01:31,510 --> 01:01:30,319
let's forget over there you could just

1320
01:01:34,549 --> 01:01:31,520
um

1321
01:01:36,390 --> 01:01:34,559
click the link again otherwise we did

1322
01:01:38,870 --> 01:01:36,400
uh hit the hour

1323
01:01:43,109 --> 01:01:38,880
mark here oh here he is joey spaghetti

1324
01:01:48,789 --> 01:01:44,630
i'm afraid i touched the wrong thing

1325
01:01:53,349 --> 01:01:50,630
get out of here

1326
01:01:55,910 --> 01:01:53,359
until 2018 there's no way i'm like i

1327
01:01:58,630 --> 01:01:55,920
still use a pager predominantly yeah a

1328
01:01:59,349 --> 01:01:58,640
people i'm just kidding

1329
01:02:10,150 --> 01:01:59,359
a

1330
01:02:13,270 --> 01:02:10,160
like pretty

1331
01:02:14,950 --> 01:02:13,280
convincing fake pagers like the weight

1332
01:02:17,270 --> 01:02:14,960
was real and everything

1333
01:02:20,789 --> 01:02:17,280
and it was for their sample cases but

1334
01:02:23,270 --> 01:02:20,799
they'd give them to us and

1335
01:02:26,150 --> 01:02:23,280
but then we had pagers

1336
01:02:29,270 --> 01:02:26,160
yeah so um yeah if you want to do this

1337
01:02:31,589 --> 01:02:29,280
more you get a mic man um i have i know

1338
01:02:33,270 --> 01:02:31,599
i'm not i look much better on tv than i

1339
01:02:35,270 --> 01:02:33,280
do i have a free one i could probably

1340
01:02:37,510 --> 01:02:35,280
mail to you if you want it's up to you

1341
01:02:39,670 --> 01:02:37,520
what this works

1342
01:02:41,589 --> 01:02:39,680
yeah it's okay but you know what you

1343
01:02:44,150 --> 01:02:41,599
want to put studio in here

1344
01:02:46,150 --> 01:02:44,160
well it's you know you get a microphone

1345
01:02:48,470 --> 01:02:46,160
you know it just plugs in usb

1346
01:02:50,069 --> 01:02:48,480
i can get a mic i can get a mine

1347
01:02:53,029 --> 01:02:50,079
yeah it sounds like you're in the toilet

1348
01:02:56,950 --> 01:02:54,150
right

1349
01:03:01,190 --> 01:02:58,710
as long as i know there's no echo that

1350
01:03:03,270 --> 01:03:01,200
was i think you're you're natural

1351
01:03:05,270 --> 01:03:03,280
yeah yeah

1352
01:03:07,750 --> 01:03:05,280
i look like a roadie from mega death

1353
01:03:10,150 --> 01:03:07,760
cool yeah and your music too on music it

1354
01:03:12,390 --> 01:03:10,160
works out yeah

1355
01:03:14,230 --> 01:03:12,400
painting somebody painted it for me

1356
01:03:16,230 --> 01:03:14,240
yeah listen before you lose your whole

1357
01:03:18,390 --> 01:03:16,240
audience we should probably talk just a

1358
01:03:21,190 --> 01:03:18,400
little bit about this mcdonald's subject

1359
01:03:23,829 --> 01:03:21,200
of the day okay sure yeah you probably

1360
01:03:25,589 --> 01:03:23,839
got the history on the dude so

1361
01:03:26,630 --> 01:03:25,599
you know that guy

1362
01:03:27,910 --> 01:03:26,640
he

1363
01:03:30,230 --> 01:03:27,920
i don't know if i could say it should

1364
01:03:31,670 --> 01:03:30,240
say let me just say it right he was

1365
01:03:34,150 --> 01:03:31,680
probably killed by the government let's

1366
01:03:36,789 --> 01:03:34,160
be honest right this is a guy he was a

1367
01:03:38,870 --> 01:03:36,799
meteorologist brilliant brilliant man

1368
01:03:41,910 --> 01:03:38,880
right a meteorologist and a physicist he

1369
01:03:42,630 --> 01:03:41,920
held two degrees right so he's brought

1370
01:03:45,190 --> 01:03:42,640
in

1371
01:03:47,910 --> 01:03:45,200
by the government to look at blue books

1372
01:03:50,870 --> 01:03:47,920
work right he's literally working at

1373
01:03:53,109 --> 01:03:50,880
wright patterson air base gets high next

1374
01:03:54,870 --> 01:03:53,119
work looks at it and his job was

1375
01:03:56,990 --> 01:03:54,880
basically to give

1376
01:03:59,109 --> 01:03:57,000
a consultation in regards to the

1377
01:04:01,109 --> 01:03:59,119
atmospherics okay

1378
01:04:03,349 --> 01:04:01,119
you know dr mcdonald could this have

1379
01:04:05,750 --> 01:04:03,359
been clouds or ball lightning and he

1380
01:04:08,710 --> 01:04:05,760
took a look at it and he's like no this

1381
01:04:11,190 --> 01:04:08,720
is basically you know a craft

1382
01:04:12,950 --> 01:04:11,200
and he knew what it was and he went to

1383
01:04:15,190 --> 01:04:12,960
heinek and he said what are you doing

1384
01:04:17,829 --> 01:04:15,200
you're lying to the public there's a big

1385
01:04:19,910 --> 01:04:17,839
fallout those guys like went at it and

1386
01:04:21,750 --> 01:04:19,920
mcdonald was never really the same after

1387
01:04:23,589 --> 01:04:21,760
that he didn't trust the government at

1388
01:04:25,589 --> 01:04:23,599
all after that

1389
01:04:27,990 --> 01:04:25,599
he was trying they thought that

1390
01:04:30,710 --> 01:04:28,000
uh he they were kind of duping him they

1391
01:04:33,750 --> 01:04:30,720
wanted him to do pineac it was just he

1392
01:04:34,950 --> 01:04:33,760
caught on to the big lie and his death

1393
01:04:38,390 --> 01:04:34,960
you know

1394
01:04:41,109 --> 01:04:38,400
very suspicious very suspicious another

1395
01:04:43,029 --> 01:04:41,119
suicide note man like you know

1396
01:04:45,589 --> 01:04:43,039
another phil snyder

1397
01:04:47,430 --> 01:04:45,599
did they would do does anyone know what

1398
01:04:50,150 --> 01:04:47,440
it said

1399
01:04:52,950 --> 01:04:50,160
no but it's probably out there well i

1400
01:04:56,549 --> 01:04:52,960
have just in the sake of full disclosure

1401
01:04:59,430 --> 01:04:56,559
i i have not read a book or looked down

1402
01:05:01,910 --> 01:04:59,440
uh looked up much of these cases in an

1403
01:05:03,910 --> 01:05:01,920
extremely long time my library has been

1404
01:05:06,549 --> 01:05:03,920
closed since the lockdown

1405
01:05:19,109 --> 01:05:06,559
so i'm going on old memory that's

1406
01:05:22,390 --> 01:05:20,390
big on those

1407
01:05:24,870 --> 01:05:22,400
big headphones

1408
01:05:25,750 --> 01:05:24,880
there you go there it is

1409
01:05:27,829 --> 01:05:25,760
um

1410
01:05:33,349 --> 01:05:27,839
yeah i was just

1411
01:05:36,309 --> 01:05:33,359
just the uh the whole story to me was um

1412
01:05:38,270 --> 01:05:36,319
was it just kind of captured the essence

1413
01:05:41,109 --> 01:05:38,280
of

1414
01:05:42,870 --> 01:05:41,119
ufology all together right working so

1415
01:05:45,190 --> 01:05:42,880
hard to find the truth

1416
01:05:47,190 --> 01:05:45,200
you're constantly being pushed back by

1417
01:05:48,549 --> 01:05:47,200
the government

1418
01:05:50,549 --> 01:05:48,559
yeah i think that's changing and

1419
01:05:52,230 --> 01:05:50,559
chastised you know

1420
01:05:54,630 --> 01:05:52,240
i think that's changing look the

1421
01:05:56,549 --> 01:05:54,640
government had good reasons to keep this

1422
01:05:59,750 --> 01:05:56,559
stuff quiet before they could use it as

1423
01:06:02,390 --> 01:05:59,760
a tool of propaganda against the soviets

1424
01:06:04,789 --> 01:06:02,400
um which was an active tool of the

1425
01:06:07,670 --> 01:06:04,799
military the propaganda there was a

1426
01:06:09,990 --> 01:06:07,680
program called mockingbird uh which

1427
01:06:12,789 --> 01:06:10,000
philip class was a big part of

1428
01:06:15,670 --> 01:06:12,799
mockingbird mockingbird was literally a

1429
01:06:17,750 --> 01:06:15,680
legitimate cia operation

1430
01:06:20,309 --> 01:06:17,760
to infiltrate the american media and

1431
01:06:22,470 --> 01:06:20,319
convince them to lie about ufos it's

1432
01:06:24,309 --> 01:06:22,480
legit it's you could find the docs in

1433
01:06:26,390 --> 01:06:24,319
the dark of the day dude that

1434
01:06:27,910 --> 01:06:26,400
mockingbird and philip class

1435
01:06:31,029 --> 01:06:27,920
it was real

1436
01:06:33,270 --> 01:06:31,039
but nowadays it's completely different

1437
01:06:35,270 --> 01:06:33,280
right um

1438
01:06:37,510 --> 01:06:35,280
nowadays we're in the information age

1439
01:06:39,349 --> 01:06:37,520
people are just not going to accept

1440
01:06:41,589 --> 01:06:39,359
just a straight out lie just not going

1441
01:06:43,589 --> 01:06:41,599
to accept the [\h__\h] anymore so i

1442
01:06:45,750 --> 01:06:43,599
think the government's in a weird spot

1443
01:06:48,069 --> 01:06:45,760
when it comes to disclosing because they

1444
01:06:50,549 --> 01:06:48,079
have this history of doing really bad

1445
01:06:53,190 --> 01:06:50,559
things to keep secret and now they have

1446
01:06:55,510 --> 01:06:53,200
to let that secret out how do they do it

1447
01:06:56,950 --> 01:06:55,520
delicately yeah one thing we could do is

1448
01:07:00,630 --> 01:06:56,960
change the name

1449
01:07:02,870 --> 01:07:00,640
what ufos no it's uap you know what i'm

1450
01:07:04,390 --> 01:07:02,880
saying so they're rebranding it and

1451
01:07:06,710 --> 01:07:04,400
they're kind of bringing about like a

1452
01:07:09,109 --> 01:07:06,720
whole new generation plus

1453
01:07:11,750 --> 01:07:09,119
if they can trace anything back to

1454
01:07:14,069 --> 01:07:11,760
anybody that did some serious crimes

1455
01:07:16,309 --> 01:07:14,079
guys that drew far stole out the window

1456
01:07:18,309 --> 01:07:16,319
the guys that you know did this to

1457
01:07:20,390 --> 01:07:18,319
mcdonald um

1458
01:07:21,990 --> 01:07:20,400
they're not gonna admit anything like

1459
01:07:23,190 --> 01:07:22,000
that they're just not gonna let that

1460
01:07:24,549 --> 01:07:23,200
happen

1461
01:07:27,430 --> 01:07:24,559
um

1462
01:07:29,750 --> 01:07:27,440
yeah so these new programs are to are

1463
01:07:34,230 --> 01:07:29,760
going to be new these new house uh

1464
01:07:38,870 --> 01:07:36,710
it's got to pass

1465
01:07:41,349 --> 01:07:38,880
as is

1466
01:07:44,549 --> 01:07:41,359
uh that's hard to say because they lump

1467
01:07:47,589 --> 01:07:44,559
a whole lot of stuff into these things i

1468
01:07:50,789 --> 01:07:47,599
i detest politics and i understand the

1469
01:07:52,230 --> 01:07:50,799
fundamentals of american government i do

1470
01:07:53,910 --> 01:07:52,240
i don't know how to get away with

1471
01:07:57,430 --> 01:07:53,920
passing bills

1472
01:07:58,789 --> 01:07:57,440
with so much different stuff in a bill

1473
01:08:00,950 --> 01:07:58,799
yeah you know what i mean

1474
01:08:02,789 --> 01:08:00,960
well let's look at ufos and let's give

1475
01:08:05,109 --> 01:08:02,799
some money to taiwan and let's build a

1476
01:08:07,029 --> 01:08:05,119
bridge in toledo

1477
01:08:08,630 --> 01:08:07,039
you know what that is it's a lot of back

1478
01:08:10,789 --> 01:08:08,640
deals i'll give you the bridge for

1479
01:08:13,029 --> 01:08:10,799
toledo if you give me the ufo stuff all

1480
01:08:16,229 --> 01:08:14,069
all right

1481
01:08:18,550 --> 01:08:16,239
i guarantee it we'll pay for an air

1482
01:08:20,070 --> 01:08:18,560
force base in poland yeah

1483
01:08:21,669 --> 01:08:20,080
what do you think they're meeting for

1484
01:08:23,430 --> 01:08:21,679
what are they talking about

1485
01:08:24,149 --> 01:08:23,440
yeah of course they're doing stuff like

1486
01:08:26,149 --> 01:08:24,159
that

1487
01:08:27,749 --> 01:08:26,159
bro it's all morning well in the end

1488
01:08:29,749 --> 01:08:27,759
they just want

1489
01:08:33,430 --> 01:08:29,759
uh enough

1490
01:08:35,829 --> 01:08:33,440
um content to be able to use um during

1491
01:08:37,349 --> 01:08:35,839
the election year you know

1492
01:08:39,030 --> 01:08:37,359
so they can say

1493
01:08:41,269 --> 01:08:39,040
so they can grab something from the bill

1494
01:08:43,189 --> 01:08:41,279
and use it as a success you know there

1495
01:08:44,789 --> 01:08:43,199
was two sections in the bill pertaining

1496
01:08:47,349 --> 01:08:44,799
to ufo

1497
01:08:50,829 --> 01:08:47,359
uav

1498
01:08:56,309 --> 01:08:53,709
x2610 and

1499
01:08:57,829 --> 01:08:56,319
hr4350 i was gonna take notes on them

1500
01:08:59,030 --> 01:08:57,839
and those i got as far as just letting

1501
01:09:00,550 --> 01:08:59,040
me notice

1502
01:09:01,669 --> 01:09:00,560
you were just bragging about taking

1503
01:09:09,030 --> 01:09:01,679
notes

1504
01:09:11,189 --> 01:09:09,040
i when you say pass as is

1505
01:09:12,709 --> 01:09:11,199
they could amend what's in each one of

1506
01:09:15,189 --> 01:09:12,719
these right they would say okay pull

1507
01:09:16,870 --> 01:09:15,199
this out pull this out add this

1508
01:09:19,110 --> 01:09:16,880
and then um

1509
01:09:20,390 --> 01:09:19,120
who knows look the bottom line is at the

1510
01:09:23,269 --> 01:09:20,400
end of the day they're going to make an

1511
01:09:24,870 --> 01:09:23,279
x-files office and that's what you know

1512
01:09:26,870 --> 01:09:24,880
for the sake of conversation we'll call

1513
01:09:29,030 --> 01:09:26,880
it the x kyle's office do you think it

1514
01:09:31,590 --> 01:09:29,040
makes any like a difference if they

1515
01:09:33,669 --> 01:09:31,600
don't share any data to prove it it what

1516
01:09:35,189 --> 01:09:33,679
it is they're looking at well not gonna

1517
01:09:37,269 --> 01:09:35,199
it's gonna co and then what whatever

1518
01:09:38,630 --> 01:09:37,279
they do it's gonna come through a filter

1519
01:09:41,430 --> 01:09:38,640
you know they're not gonna come out and

1520
01:09:43,349 --> 01:09:41,440
say this man uh some of this stuff so

1521
01:09:45,510 --> 01:09:43,359
you're saying you so you don't believe

1522
01:09:48,229 --> 01:09:45,520
that there's some sort of uh slow

1523
01:09:51,030 --> 01:09:48,239
disclosure happening no i do i do i

1524
01:09:53,030 --> 01:09:51,040
believe i believe this legitimate modern

1525
01:09:55,430 --> 01:09:53,040
day disclosure

1526
01:09:57,430 --> 01:09:55,440
started at the very least the day the

1527
01:10:00,149 --> 01:09:57,440
new york times put that on the front

1528
01:10:02,070 --> 01:10:00,159
page sure but prior to that there's also

1529
01:10:04,310 --> 01:10:02,080
been a huge decent

1530
01:10:05,030 --> 01:10:04,320
desensitization

1531
01:10:06,310 --> 01:10:05,040
to

1532
01:10:09,510 --> 01:10:06,320
the public

1533
01:10:11,669 --> 01:10:09,520
with shows like didn't lou have ever lou

1534
01:10:13,189 --> 01:10:11,679
ellie's on like lou and melon are on

1535
01:10:15,669 --> 01:10:13,199
history channel

1536
01:10:16,709 --> 01:10:15,679
okay that would have never flown in the

1537
01:10:18,950 --> 01:10:16,719
90s

1538
01:10:19,990 --> 01:10:18,960
okay a guy like chris mellon with his

1539
01:10:21,669 --> 01:10:20,000
position

1540
01:10:23,669 --> 01:10:21,679
that would have never flown so they're

1541
01:10:26,390 --> 01:10:23,679
like okay guys go make a few bucks and

1542
01:10:29,350 --> 01:10:26,400
get the country ready this is coming

1543
01:10:32,950 --> 01:10:29,360
it's a slow drip we're in disclosure

1544
01:10:34,870 --> 01:10:32,960
we're in it how do they disclose without

1545
01:10:38,550 --> 01:10:34,880
data

1546
01:10:40,390 --> 01:10:38,560
well just like let's say you know like

1547
01:10:43,510 --> 01:10:40,400
the videos that came out or whatever the

1548
01:10:47,189 --> 01:10:43,520
videos uh the navy videos in 2017 or

1549
01:10:51,030 --> 01:10:47,990
there's

1550
01:10:53,189 --> 01:10:51,040
here's

1551
01:10:54,790 --> 01:10:53,199
what this radar screen is actually

1552
01:10:56,790 --> 01:10:54,800
showing here's where they're actually

1553
01:10:58,550 --> 01:10:56,800
located here's the wind speed here's how

1554
01:11:00,149 --> 01:10:58,560
fast they're going no there is data

1555
01:11:02,310 --> 01:11:00,159
there is data all along with that they

1556
01:11:05,510 --> 01:11:02,320
have to be very careful not to give the

1557
01:11:08,390 --> 01:11:05,520
enemies our enemies right um too much

1558
01:11:09,990 --> 01:11:08,400
information on our data collection i

1559
01:11:11,910 --> 01:11:10,000
understand but that's how people are

1560
01:11:14,070 --> 01:11:11,920
gonna believe it if you look on the

1561
01:11:15,830 --> 01:11:14,080
screen say for the tic tac there's

1562
01:11:19,510 --> 01:11:15,840
numbers all around you got latitude

1563
01:11:21,110 --> 01:11:19,520
longitude speed uh distance yeah um all

1564
01:11:23,750 --> 01:11:21,120
of that

1565
01:11:26,790 --> 01:11:23,760
um some of this stuff's classified like

1566
01:11:29,270 --> 01:11:26,800
sometimes somebody asked uh kevin day

1567
01:11:31,270 --> 01:11:29,280
a simple question kevin how far is the

1568
01:11:33,669 --> 01:11:31,280
radar operator on i believe the

1569
01:11:35,350 --> 01:11:33,679
princeton or maybe the nimitz all right

1570
01:11:36,229 --> 01:11:35,360
i forget to

1571
01:11:38,470 --> 01:11:36,239
um

1572
01:11:40,470 --> 01:11:38,480
but they asked kevin how far can those

1573
01:11:42,070 --> 01:11:40,480
radar systems see

1574
01:11:44,149 --> 01:11:42,080
simple question how far and he said

1575
01:11:45,669 --> 01:11:44,159
that's classified i can't say it's 80

1576
01:11:47,990 --> 01:11:45,679
000 feet

1577
01:11:50,149 --> 01:11:48,000
no no in distance there's a curvature of

1578
01:11:53,030 --> 01:11:50,159
the earth too but they bounce the radars

1579
01:11:55,990 --> 01:11:53,040
off satellites and they're able to see i

1580
01:11:57,350 --> 01:11:56,000
they could probably see a seagull 1500

1581
01:11:59,430 --> 01:11:57,360
miles away

1582
01:12:01,350 --> 01:11:59,440
you know but he can't say that

1583
01:12:03,430 --> 01:12:01,360
yeah you know what i mean so

1584
01:12:05,990 --> 01:12:03,440
yeah they're good look you know what i'd

1585
01:12:07,510 --> 01:12:06,000
be happy with with from the government

1586
01:12:09,189 --> 01:12:07,520
disclosure

1587
01:12:10,709 --> 01:12:09,199
they they come up they say they don't

1588
01:12:13,350 --> 01:12:10,719
know what they are

1589
01:12:15,430 --> 01:12:13,360
simply say you don't know

1590
01:12:17,590 --> 01:12:15,440
say we know what they're not we know if

1591
01:12:20,830 --> 01:12:17,600
they say we know they're not man-made

1592
01:12:23,270 --> 01:12:20,840
that's bombshell that's a bombshell done

1593
01:12:24,470 --> 01:12:23,280
and they could wiggle out of it when

1594
01:12:25,750 --> 01:12:24,480
people start hitting them a question

1595
01:12:27,430 --> 01:12:25,760
well what are what are they where are

1596
01:12:28,470 --> 01:12:27,440
they from we don't know we don't know we

1597
01:12:29,430 --> 01:12:28,480
don't know we know they're not the

1598
01:12:31,510 --> 01:12:29,440
chinese you know they're not the

1599
01:12:32,630 --> 01:12:31,520
russians we've known us we know it's not

1600
01:12:35,830 --> 01:12:32,640
man-made

1601
01:12:36,870 --> 01:12:35,840
boom that's it that's huge and that may

1602
01:12:37,750 --> 01:12:36,880
come

1603
01:12:40,070 --> 01:12:37,760
i would

1604
01:12:42,310 --> 01:12:40,080
you know it would be the hugest you know

1605
01:12:44,709 --> 01:12:42,320
a lot of people say right the old

1606
01:12:45,830 --> 01:12:44,719
saucer lanes in the white house lawn but

1607
01:12:48,630 --> 01:12:45,840
i would say

1608
01:12:49,430 --> 01:12:48,640
a joint statement between

1609
01:13:08,870 --> 01:12:49,440
a

1610
01:13:10,870 --> 01:13:08,880
phoenix lights

1611
01:13:14,149 --> 01:13:10,880
that that would force them

1612
01:13:16,229 --> 01:13:14,159
the phoenix highlights happened in 97 98

1613
01:13:19,990 --> 01:13:16,239
yeah something like that and

1614
01:13:22,470 --> 01:13:20,000
if that happened today you'd have 10 000

1615
01:13:23,510 --> 01:13:22,480
videos of it yeah instead of the two or

1616
01:13:24,709 --> 01:13:23,520
three

1617
01:13:28,390 --> 01:13:24,719
you know what i mean isn't that

1618
01:13:31,350 --> 01:13:28,400
interesting so is that why it doesn't

1619
01:13:32,470 --> 01:13:31,360
why what doesn't what um another phoenix

1620
01:13:34,390 --> 01:13:32,480
flights

1621
01:13:36,470 --> 01:13:34,400
you know why that does another one will

1622
01:13:39,669 --> 01:13:36,480
happen i think another i mean historian

1623
01:13:41,910 --> 01:13:39,679
medieval nuremberg in like 1531

1624
01:13:43,669 --> 01:13:41,920
fact-checked me on that there was a mass

1625
01:13:45,430 --> 01:13:43,679
sighting over nuremberg germany there

1626
01:13:48,709 --> 01:13:45,440
was like 15

1627
01:13:50,310 --> 01:13:48,719
like saucers like flying around and they

1628
01:13:52,070 --> 01:13:50,320
carved it in wood and they put it in

1629
01:13:53,830 --> 01:13:52,080
their history books and it's there well

1630
01:13:55,750 --> 01:13:53,840
like the cell phones and stuff there may

1631
01:14:00,790 --> 01:13:55,760
be something to that like if they don't

1632
01:14:03,189 --> 01:14:00,800
want to be documented or do right

1633
01:14:05,669 --> 01:14:03,199
because they would have to keep in uh

1634
01:14:07,669 --> 01:14:05,679
keep it you know finger on that pulse

1635
01:14:09,430 --> 01:14:07,679
i would imagine oh they're getting

1636
01:14:11,350 --> 01:14:09,440
their cell phones out now

1637
01:14:13,990 --> 01:14:11,360
that'll be speculating on the motives of

1638
01:14:16,630 --> 01:14:14,000
the aliens don't worry it just makes his

1639
01:14:18,390 --> 01:14:16,640
blobby orbs anyways but i tell you what

1640
01:14:20,630 --> 01:14:18,400
if they if they wanted to show

1641
01:14:22,470 --> 01:14:20,640
themselves imagine this scenario if they

1642
01:14:24,550 --> 01:14:22,480
show up over the world's

1643
01:14:25,830 --> 01:14:24,560
biggest cities you know all of a sudden

1644
01:14:32,790 --> 01:14:25,840
on the same day

1645
01:14:36,630 --> 01:14:33,590
yeah

1646
01:14:40,310 --> 01:14:36,640
and each one of them uh has hashtag and

1647
01:14:41,830 --> 01:14:40,320
uap secrecy on the saucer

1648
01:14:44,709 --> 01:14:41,840
of course it wouldn't be real without a

1649
01:14:46,709 --> 01:14:44,719
hashtag yeah i changed my

1650
01:14:50,229 --> 01:14:46,719
uh background to this thing because it's

1651
01:14:52,790 --> 01:14:50,239
the closest thing i could find that uh

1652
01:14:55,350 --> 01:14:52,800
looked like the second thing i saw that

1653
01:14:58,550 --> 01:14:55,360
shot this hip a light on me and that was

1654
01:15:01,910 --> 01:14:58,560
about 50 feet right in front of my

1655
01:15:05,189 --> 01:15:03,189
you can't see the background on the

1656
01:15:08,390 --> 01:15:05,199
screen i can't see these people making

1657
01:15:10,630 --> 01:15:08,400
fun of me man i know that oh what

1658
01:15:14,070 --> 01:15:10,640
you got you need glasses or something

1659
01:15:16,310 --> 01:15:14,080
no i don't have it on my screen why not

1660
01:15:19,510 --> 01:15:16,320
i don't know and when i clicked over oh

1661
01:15:20,630 --> 01:15:19,520
wait what if you got to engage bro

1662
01:15:21,750 --> 01:15:20,640
oh

1663
01:15:23,910 --> 01:15:21,760
i did

1664
01:15:27,430 --> 01:15:23,920
let's just focus on talking first once

1665
01:15:31,830 --> 01:15:27,440
you get good then you can multitask

1666
01:15:35,750 --> 01:15:33,590
your worlds are colliding

1667
01:15:39,590 --> 01:15:35,760
[Laughter]

1668
01:15:44,070 --> 01:15:42,229
i had a great time coming back here and

1669
01:15:47,189 --> 01:15:44,080
talking with you guys i'd love to have

1670
01:15:49,189 --> 01:15:47,199
you back on again maybe we can pick um

1671
01:15:51,110 --> 01:15:49,199
i'm gonna stay here two days a week or

1672
01:15:53,189 --> 01:15:51,120
something that you can stop by i'm here

1673
01:15:55,910 --> 01:15:53,199
i work from home yeah you know i

1674
01:15:57,750 --> 01:15:55,920
appreciate you guys your history with it

1675
01:15:59,990 --> 01:15:57,760
you know i appreciate it

1676
01:16:01,350 --> 01:16:00,000
well-rounded thank you like i have a

1677
01:16:03,910 --> 01:16:01,360
topic and you have something to offer

1678
01:16:05,750 --> 01:16:03,920
that i don't know about yeah dude i tell

1679
01:16:07,510 --> 01:16:05,760
you what now there's usually no cheating

1680
01:16:08,950 --> 01:16:07,520
like if you let me a topic a day ahead

1681
01:16:11,110 --> 01:16:08,960
of time you know a lot more like i'm

1682
01:16:14,070 --> 01:16:11,120
going mcdonald i'm like off the top of

1683
01:16:15,750 --> 01:16:14,080
my head yeah mcdonald's oh you got a big

1684
01:16:18,550 --> 01:16:15,760
beef with high knack yeah i remember

1685
01:16:21,350 --> 01:16:18,560
that yeah in class too

1686
01:16:22,950 --> 01:16:21,360
class yeah class is the modern mic west

1687
01:16:25,189 --> 01:16:22,960
make what you're reading

1688
01:16:28,870 --> 01:16:26,229
awful

1689
01:16:31,430 --> 01:16:28,880
no class with class

1690
01:16:32,630 --> 01:16:31,440
okay oh wait didn't oh

1691
01:16:34,310 --> 01:16:32,640
um

1692
01:16:36,470 --> 01:16:34,320
just a quick one did you i think

1693
01:16:38,950 --> 01:16:36,480
mcdonald there was a report like a

1694
01:16:41,030 --> 01:16:38,960
debunk like class wrote a debunk report

1695
01:16:43,430 --> 01:16:41,040
or something and mcdonald got it and

1696
01:16:45,270 --> 01:16:43,440
wrote class dismissed on it it's the

1697
01:16:47,350 --> 01:16:45,280
famous thing i gotta look it up he

1698
01:16:48,870 --> 01:16:47,360
literally did you gotta look it up it's

1699
01:16:50,630 --> 01:16:48,880
awesome i have to look if i remember

1700
01:16:52,870 --> 01:16:50,640
that right there's

1701
01:16:55,189 --> 01:16:52,880
i really want to go look at some of more

1702
01:16:57,510 --> 01:16:55,199
of his notes that are uh you have to go

1703
01:16:59,189 --> 01:16:57,520
to university of tucson to actually look

1704
01:17:01,430 --> 01:16:59,199
at you know i'd be interested there's

1705
01:17:03,590 --> 01:17:01,440
not much on mcdonald there's not much on

1706
01:17:06,070 --> 01:17:03,600
him right you know there's no like two

1707
01:17:08,630 --> 01:17:06,080
hour deep dive on mcdonald's

1708
01:17:10,790 --> 01:17:08,640
yeah really not and there should be

1709
01:17:13,510 --> 01:17:10,800
yeah some of the stuff rolled like robin

1710
01:17:16,709 --> 01:17:13,520
last week rob covford i could see uh

1711
01:17:18,790 --> 01:17:16,719
he did a great job on the aztec right

1712
01:17:21,189 --> 01:17:18,800
yeah there's not much on aztec there's

1713
01:17:22,229 --> 01:17:21,199
still debated the dates are debated on

1714
01:17:25,830 --> 01:17:22,239
aztec

1715
01:17:27,030 --> 01:17:25,840
yeah

1716
01:17:28,790 --> 01:17:27,040
well uh

1717
01:17:31,110 --> 01:17:28,800
it seems like

1718
01:17:33,750 --> 01:17:31,120
you know i've even just seen more stuff

1719
01:17:35,350 --> 01:17:33,760
that points to march 25th it's intense

1720
01:17:37,590 --> 01:17:35,360
it's weird

1721
01:17:39,750 --> 01:17:37,600
it is so weird but then i look at all my

1722
01:17:42,070 --> 01:17:39,760
new mexico documents which

1723
01:17:44,870 --> 01:17:42,080
total over a thousand by this point and

1724
01:17:46,709 --> 01:17:44,880
i don't have one for that time you know

1725
01:17:49,669 --> 01:17:46,719
do you print them out

1726
01:17:51,669 --> 01:17:49,679
um i do when i'm gonna get it real into

1727
01:17:53,590 --> 01:17:51,679
it yeah hey could i ask you a question

1728
01:17:55,590 --> 01:17:53,600
just in your in your

1729
01:17:57,590 --> 01:17:55,600
experience researching this stuff in the

1730
01:17:59,270 --> 01:17:57,600
documents it's got to be a little bit

1731
01:18:01,110 --> 01:17:59,280
frustrating

1732
01:18:03,430 --> 01:18:01,120
you're discovering this stuff and

1733
01:18:05,350 --> 01:18:03,440
reading it and literally proving right

1734
01:18:07,350 --> 01:18:05,360
in front right to your eyes that the

1735
01:18:09,750 --> 01:18:07,360
government's been lying forever

1736
01:18:12,390 --> 01:18:09,760
and you've got an entire population that

1737
01:18:14,310 --> 01:18:12,400
doesn't know or doesn't care that's got

1738
01:18:17,430 --> 01:18:14,320
to be frustrating and [\h__\h]

1739
01:18:20,149 --> 01:18:17,440
uh it's the frustrating part sometimes

1740
01:18:22,390 --> 01:18:20,159
is what um i don't want to say people

1741
01:18:24,550 --> 01:18:22,400
prefer to spend their time getting into

1742
01:18:25,590 --> 01:18:24,560
because i think a lot of people maybe

1743
01:18:28,070 --> 01:18:25,600
just not

1744
01:18:31,030 --> 01:18:28,080
made not know about my channel

1745
01:18:32,709 --> 01:18:31,040
but um for instance

1746
01:18:35,510 --> 01:18:32,719
for you personally it's like you have

1747
01:18:37,669 --> 01:18:35,520
that eureka moment yeah it's not to the

1748
01:18:40,070 --> 01:18:37,679
public it's like like i like even when i

1749
01:18:42,630 --> 01:18:40,080
read a book and i go oh my god why does

1750
01:18:44,550 --> 01:18:42,640
the world not know about this yeah why

1751
01:18:46,149 --> 01:18:44,560
are they ignoring it well it started

1752
01:18:47,590 --> 01:18:46,159
with my experience and then you know i

1753
01:18:49,510 --> 01:18:47,600
got to the point where i started doing

1754
01:18:52,950 --> 01:18:49,520
the research and i was doing the

1755
01:18:54,870 --> 01:18:52,960
research yeah i'm like what the hell is

1756
01:18:56,630 --> 01:18:54,880
going on here

1757
01:18:58,709 --> 01:18:56,640
okay i'm trying this

1758
01:19:01,350 --> 01:18:58,719
part of your experience yet no you

1759
01:19:05,430 --> 01:19:01,360
aren't euphocurious at all yeah a little

1760
01:19:08,310 --> 01:19:05,440
bit into like unidentified the show

1761
01:19:10,390 --> 01:19:08,320
um but not studying a lick of anything

1762
01:19:12,390 --> 01:19:10,400
right you know just watching the show

1763
01:19:14,790 --> 01:19:12,400
dude just for full disclosure i never

1764
01:19:17,350 --> 01:19:14,800
what like my history channel watching

1765
01:19:20,229 --> 01:19:17,360
ended in like 20

1766
01:19:22,229 --> 01:19:20,239
oak six like i never saw lou's show i

1767
01:19:24,390 --> 01:19:22,239
never saw a melon show i never saw any

1768
01:19:26,070 --> 01:19:24,400
of that yeah i never saw any of it i

1769
01:19:27,590 --> 01:19:26,080
kind of gave up on the ancient aliens

1770
01:19:29,590 --> 01:19:27,600
which was kind of cool but they mixed

1771
01:19:31,669 --> 01:19:29,600
fact with fiction and

1772
01:19:33,990 --> 01:19:31,679
and everything and i they say even when

1773
01:19:36,070 --> 01:19:34,000
they got into like american revolution

1774
01:19:41,189 --> 01:19:36,080
did george washington win because of the

1775
01:19:43,910 --> 01:19:42,870
there's some good stuff on the ancient

1776
01:19:45,750 --> 01:19:43,920
aliens

1777
01:19:51,430 --> 01:19:45,760
well it makes this weird ancient

1778
01:19:56,390 --> 01:19:54,709
um the australia guy who had the world

1779
01:19:58,070 --> 01:19:56,400
energy grid

1780
01:20:00,310 --> 01:19:58,080
the world uf

1781
01:20:02,149 --> 01:20:00,320
yeah yeah yeah the whole planet yeah he

1782
01:20:07,510 --> 01:20:02,159
was he was in an episode of ancient

1783
01:20:11,030 --> 01:20:09,270
a weird one man just food for thought

1784
01:20:12,070 --> 01:20:11,040
like bizarre this is like ancient alien

1785
01:20:14,149 --> 01:20:12,080
stuff

1786
01:20:16,070 --> 01:20:14,159
millions of millions and billions of

1787
01:20:19,189 --> 01:20:16,080
years ago when there was only one

1788
01:20:21,750 --> 01:20:19,199
continent on the planet right pangaea

1789
01:20:24,870 --> 01:20:21,760
be familiar it was one continent before

1790
01:20:27,430 --> 01:20:24,880
it shifted now one continent if you took

1791
01:20:30,709 --> 01:20:27,440
pangea and you put it back together

1792
01:20:34,390 --> 01:20:30,719
dead center of the world's land mass

1793
01:20:36,709 --> 01:20:34,400
dead center is the giza plateau in egypt

1794
01:20:38,310 --> 01:20:36,719
oh my god you take all the work right it

1795
01:20:40,070 --> 01:20:38,320
makes you think it might be a little bit

1796
01:20:42,229 --> 01:20:40,080
older than uh

1797
01:20:44,790 --> 01:20:42,239
a few thousand years the egyptians are

1798
01:20:46,390 --> 01:20:44,800
talking about that's wild [\h__\h] that

1799
01:20:48,470 --> 01:20:46,400
stuff yeah

1800
01:20:50,790 --> 01:20:48,480
what's up with that do you did you

1801
01:20:53,189 --> 01:20:50,800
enjoyed the book uh chariot of the gods

1802
01:20:56,070 --> 01:20:53,199
was it about vandankin

1803
01:21:00,470 --> 01:20:58,229
yeah yeah but you know what

1804
01:21:02,629 --> 01:21:00,480
i mean i i read through it one time and

1805
01:21:04,790 --> 01:21:02,639
by the time i read it there was already

1806
01:21:06,950 --> 01:21:04,800
tons of documentaries about other stuff

1807
01:21:08,790 --> 01:21:06,960
you know nazca lines and [\h__\h] so the

1808
01:21:11,030 --> 01:21:08,800
book wasn't a great read i didn't find

1809
01:21:13,189 --> 01:21:11,040
it an easy read yeah

1810
01:21:16,390 --> 01:21:13,199
you know not that it wasn't informative

1811
01:21:17,910 --> 01:21:16,400
mean come out 1972

1812
01:21:19,590 --> 01:21:17,920
he wrote that book

1813
01:21:22,070 --> 01:21:19,600
yeah yeah it's old man that's all i'm

1814
01:21:24,709 --> 01:21:22,080
not that i'm old but not that old

1815
01:21:28,470 --> 01:21:24,719
so i already knew of his work before i i

1816
01:21:29,590 --> 01:21:28,480
got into before i read his book

1817
01:21:33,030 --> 01:21:29,600
all right

1818
01:21:36,229 --> 01:21:33,040
can't even know what i'm doing yeah i

1819
01:21:37,750 --> 01:21:36,239
give i want to see everybody

1820
01:21:39,990 --> 01:21:37,760
what's up having a good time i don't

1821
01:21:41,030 --> 01:21:40,000
mind it's over you know i get to talk to

1822
01:21:42,629 --> 01:21:41,040
english man

1823
01:21:44,950 --> 01:21:42,639
hey what time is it in england are we

1824
01:21:48,310 --> 01:21:44,960
like prime time over there uh pretty

1825
01:21:52,070 --> 01:21:50,149
it's like uh

1826
01:21:53,510 --> 01:21:52,080
let's see there's six hours it's like 7

1827
01:22:04,390 --> 01:21:53,520
30 there

1828
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:10,550
all right

1829
01:22:16,709 --> 01:22:13,350
i was trying to trick him

1830
01:22:21,750 --> 01:22:18,870
um yeah that was awesome but we're gonna

1831
01:22:25,110 --> 01:22:21,760
have him back more like the dude um and

1832
01:22:27,350 --> 01:22:25,120
we jive pretty well so it's cool and uh

1833
01:22:30,870 --> 01:22:27,360
yeah easy to talk to so

1834
01:22:33,350 --> 01:22:30,880
we're making co-hosts uh through the

1835
01:22:35,910 --> 01:22:33,360
through the chat so that's awesome we

1836
01:22:37,510 --> 01:22:35,920
got robert in there and um now we got

1837
01:22:38,790 --> 01:22:37,520
spaghetti

1838
01:22:41,110 --> 01:22:38,800
um

1839
01:22:43,669 --> 01:22:41,120
yeah so who knows you never know what's

1840
01:22:46,070 --> 01:22:43,679
gonna mean next right

1841
01:22:48,790 --> 01:22:46,080
so yeah i just did a little piece on dr

1842
01:22:49,750 --> 01:22:48,800
mcdonald i think the um

1843
01:22:52,050 --> 01:22:49,760
um

1844
01:22:54,550 --> 01:22:52,060
new york ryan new york

1845
01:22:56,870 --> 01:22:54,560
[Laughter]

1846
01:22:59,510 --> 01:22:56,880
what's up dude yeah so dr mcdonald i

1847
01:23:02,470 --> 01:22:59,520
think the key takeaway for me

1848
01:23:03,990 --> 01:23:02,480
with him is

1849
01:23:06,470 --> 01:23:04,000
there's something there that we can take

1850
01:23:10,470 --> 01:23:06,480
for ourselves right

1851
01:23:13,110 --> 01:23:10,480
and i think sometimes we tend to get

1852
01:23:15,189 --> 01:23:13,120
caught up in what we're doing what's

1853
01:23:17,510 --> 01:23:15,199
right in front of us what we're working

1854
01:23:19,430 --> 01:23:17,520
on and we get really intense

1855
01:23:21,430 --> 01:23:19,440
passionate

1856
01:23:25,750 --> 01:23:21,440
um

1857
01:23:27,110 --> 01:23:25,760
and just work our butts off for it right

1858
01:23:29,830 --> 01:23:27,120
for

1859
01:23:31,750 --> 01:23:29,840
it not to go the way we want

1860
01:23:34,390 --> 01:23:31,760
and when that happens you're left

1861
01:23:35,510 --> 01:23:34,400
holding your heart in your hands

1862
01:23:37,990 --> 01:23:35,520
right

1863
01:23:43,830 --> 01:23:38,000
but i don't think

1864
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:52,870
i think we can have a more focused but

1865
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:56,709
i would say

1866
01:24:03,110 --> 01:23:58,629
knowing

1867
01:24:05,270 --> 01:24:03,120
looking at the past and how this stuff

1868
01:24:06,709 --> 01:24:05,280
works

1869
01:24:09,030 --> 01:24:06,719
you know so don't let ourself gets

1870
01:24:12,229 --> 01:24:09,040
wrapped up in one thing being

1871
01:24:17,590 --> 01:24:13,669
or

1872
01:24:22,470 --> 01:24:17,600
get done

1873
01:24:28,390 --> 01:24:22,480
what dr mcdonald didn't or dr la paz or

1874
01:24:31,830 --> 01:24:30,390
you know

1875
01:24:34,470 --> 01:24:31,840
it's not about

1876
01:24:36,950 --> 01:24:34,480
us individually being the one

1877
01:24:40,149 --> 01:24:36,960
and when you make it that way

1878
01:24:44,709 --> 01:24:40,159
sometimes it turns out to be

1879
01:24:49,030 --> 01:24:46,950
we all have a

1880
01:24:52,229 --> 01:24:49,040
piece

1881
01:24:56,709 --> 01:24:54,790
and we rely on each other

1882
01:24:59,669 --> 01:24:56,719
for the instrument to work and playing

1883
01:25:01,270 --> 01:24:59,679
too

1884
01:25:02,870 --> 01:25:01,280
and when we do that

1885
01:25:04,870 --> 01:25:02,880
the pressure

1886
01:25:07,110 --> 01:25:04,880
is spread out

1887
01:25:11,030 --> 01:25:07,120
between that many more people

1888
01:25:13,110 --> 01:25:11,040
and it's not just on your shoulders

1889
01:25:15,350 --> 01:25:13,120
so i think that's what we should try and

1890
01:25:17,510 --> 01:25:15,360
do more if possible

1891
01:25:21,590 --> 01:25:17,520
i can mention the idea but i can't make

1892
01:25:26,310 --> 01:25:22,390
so

1893
01:25:29,990 --> 01:25:26,320
yeah just wanted to say that

1894
01:25:32,390 --> 01:25:30,000
that's my send out message y'all

1895
01:25:33,590 --> 01:25:32,400
and yeah so we will

1896
01:25:34,950 --> 01:25:33,600
but tomorrow i'm not going to have a

1897
01:25:37,270 --> 01:25:34,960
show i'm going to be on vinnie's show

1898
01:25:40,229 --> 01:25:37,280
disclosure team by the way

1899
01:25:41,590 --> 01:25:40,239
um we're going to recap max's weekend

1900
01:25:43,189 --> 01:25:41,600
and

1901
01:25:44,709 --> 01:25:43,199
i think there's another guest on there

1902
01:25:45,910 --> 01:25:44,719
too so

1903
01:25:47,910 --> 01:25:45,920
um

1904
01:25:50,310 --> 01:25:47,920
yeah so i'm just gonna be on that one

1905
01:25:52,550 --> 01:25:50,320
i'm trying to do that more you know if i

1906
01:25:54,550 --> 01:25:52,560
have an opportunity to be on somebody

1907
01:25:57,590 --> 01:25:54,560
else's show

1908
01:25:59,430 --> 01:25:57,600
i want to do that more

1909
01:26:02,149 --> 01:25:59,440
um and kind of you know go back and

1910
01:26:04,229 --> 01:26:02,159
forth a little bit but

1911
01:26:06,709 --> 01:26:04,239
don't worry

1912
01:26:08,390 --> 01:26:06,719
you're stuck with me

1913
01:26:10,070 --> 01:26:08,400
12 o'clock central

1914
01:26:11,830 --> 01:26:10,080
every freaking day

1915
01:26:12,620 --> 01:26:11,840
until somebody asked me to be on the air

1916
01:26:14,870 --> 01:26:12,630
show

1917
01:26:15,750 --> 01:26:14,880
[Laughter]

1918
01:26:16,870 --> 01:26:15,760
so

1919
01:26:19,030 --> 01:26:16,880
um

1920
01:26:20,870 --> 01:26:19,040
now i put everything in the details in

1921
01:26:23,189 --> 01:26:20,880
description for the documents that i

1922
01:26:26,550 --> 01:26:23,199
used uh in sourced

1923
01:26:27,510 --> 01:26:26,560
you know for most of this stuff um

1924
01:26:29,750 --> 01:26:27,520
you know

1925
01:26:32,870 --> 01:26:29,760
i just kind of went over the the basics

1926
01:26:35,030 --> 01:26:32,880
spaghetti even knows more than that

1927
01:26:36,870 --> 01:26:35,040
but the documents is really

1928
01:26:40,950 --> 01:26:36,880
in what i put in the description the

1929
01:26:41,990 --> 01:26:40,960
mp4s the the speech science and default

1930
01:26:43,350 --> 01:26:42,000
um

1931
01:26:49,110 --> 01:26:43,360
his

1932
01:26:51,430 --> 01:26:49,120
papers

1933
01:26:54,790 --> 01:26:51,440
that nasa uses

1934
01:26:56,870 --> 01:26:54,800
you know ufo encounters one

1935
01:26:58,790 --> 01:26:56,880
so that document so check the notes in

1936
01:27:01,430 --> 01:26:58,800
the description for that stuff if you

1937
01:27:03,669 --> 01:27:01,440
have time go look into it this guy wanna

1938
01:27:05,030 --> 01:27:03,679
taking his own life because the toll of

1939
01:27:07,430 --> 01:27:05,040
this

1940
01:27:09,110 --> 01:27:07,440
was so much

1941
01:27:11,910 --> 01:27:09,120
which did include a complete

1942
01:27:14,470 --> 01:27:11,920
embarrassment in front of congress being

1943
01:27:16,790 --> 01:27:14,480
laughed at

1944
01:27:18,550 --> 01:27:16,800
after blood sweat and tears was put into

1945
01:27:20,550 --> 01:27:18,560
this work and it was

1946
01:27:22,790 --> 01:27:20,560
such good work that it's still being

1947
01:27:25,270 --> 01:27:22,800
used today by government

1948
01:27:26,550 --> 01:27:25,280
agencies

1949
01:27:27,990 --> 01:27:26,560
check it out

1950
01:27:30,950 --> 01:27:28,000
thanks for hanging out

1951
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:33,910
power to the people

1952
01:27:37,669 --> 01:27:35,590
um i'll see you

1953
01:27:39,030 --> 01:27:37,679
tomorrow on the disclosure teams channel

1954
01:27:41,110 --> 01:27:39,040
so come visit

1955
01:27:42,629 --> 01:27:41,120
peace out yo

1956
01:27:44,870 --> 01:27:42,639
ryan

1957
01:27:46,870 --> 01:27:44,880
ucr dark sky

1958
01:27:49,270 --> 01:27:46,880
yeah thanks for joining dark sky i i

1959
01:27:51,590 --> 01:27:49,280
like watching your stuff too

1960
01:27:53,270 --> 01:27:51,600
um nigel

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